Reptile & Amphibian Forums

took some pics of my favorite male-he is sort of patternless with a great attitude(never stikes @me)

-----
norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

do not know how to do more than one pic per post-if someone can e-mail me I would appreciate it

-----
norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

Wouldn't that snake be called a crotalus oreganus oreganus, i thought the nor. and so. pacs both changed to oreganus, not viridis, please, correct me if i'm wrong, beautiful snake though, whats his locale? rootsrok

you are probly right-I know there were alot of changes made in classifications while I was out of the hobby. I was going by the "Peterson" guide I've had for 15 years now. This one was wild caught in El Sobrante, CA last year.
Going to the mojove tomarrow to look again for sides & mojoves!
Went a couple or weeks ago-but the full moon cut down on # of snakes out-found some glossys, longnosed, patchnosed,gophers & a dead speckled rattler that someone had cut the head off of : (
Hope it BIT them!
-----
norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

That was published a couple years ago in Biology of the Pitvipers (Douglas et.al) Now the only remaining animals within the eastern clade (ie. viridis) are the old ssp. viridis viridis and viridis nuntius (hopis) but they are now both just considered C. viridis viridis.

you know that every place I look on the web still refers to them as C.v.organus? http://www.venomousreptiles.org/ for one.
the book I just ordered
Rattlesnake: Portrait of a Predator
by Manny Rubio, Mannyrubio, Manny Rubio
so I guess it is going to yake some time to catch on?
-----
norcalsnakemaster@comcast.net

Hey Jerry, try this link. I think you'll find a lot of current info here. The whole site is rather good for this kind of thing. So is the SSAR (www.ssarherps.org).

Eimon
CNAH Taxonomic List