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Hello everyone,

I hope to share not only some killer new babies with you guys but perhaps a technique (or product) that may change all of our lives.

Have you ever had an egg develop a grayish colored window that began to "sweat"?!? I know that I have! Nearly every time this has happened to an egg in our collection, it was lost. The egg seems to sweat and get gradually worse as the gray "wet spot" expands across the shell. Mold begins to grow on this area and the egg seems to melt away to nothing? Sound familiar? I think we may have found a solution.

Upon losing an entire clutch of Spider x Normal eggs (5 out of 7 to be exact) I brainstormed (maybe a little dangerous in itself!) I tried to think of a way to "seal" the egg back up. I knew I needed something water resistant, non-toxic and somewhat antiseptic. I thought about this great product called liquid bandage! During a horrid trip to the local Wal-Mart (most certainly Satan's lair) I picked up a box of Band-Aid Brand Liqiud Bandage. When I got back to the facility I spread it all over the perishing Spider clutch. I saw that it discolored the eggs slightly at first but after about 24 hours I noticed a few of the eggs not getting any worse. 5 of the eggs were completely destroyed before the Bandage could take effect but two remained. This all happened within 2 days of the deposition of the eggs, roughly 55-58 days prior to hatching. The last two eggs hung on throughout the rest of their incubation period and hatched. One Spider and one normal both of which were approximately 25 grams each hatched. The normal died shortly after but the Spider, although slightly distorted is doing fine.

At that point I was fairly disappointed that my Liquid Bandage had not done anything but saved an already doomed snake. I was upset but thrilled that I had gotten my first clutch from my Pinstripe x Normal which was 12 beautiful eggs. Another bad thing happens... a few days after deposition the egg on top developed a gray sweaty spot!! In a panic I used the liquid bandage to coat that small area of gray color and crossed my fingers. A few days later that spot turned white again. Upon candling this clutch at about 35 days into incubation I was thankful.... that egg was a PINSTRIPE egg.

I then had a clutch of 9 eggs from my Clown x Normal... wet spot... Band-Aid... white spot again! Followed by another wet spot on a Pied x PH Pied egg... wet spot... Band-Aid... white spot again! I think I caught them! The Band-Aid works! I shared this information with a couple of my customers and they tried it and it worked the same way for them. So I lost the Spider clutch BUT the Pinstripe was saved!

While we don't know exactly what may cause these "wet spots" that seem to sweat our babies away, we may be able to save them with a little Liquid Bandage!

Now what does one do with this sort of information? I don't know what you would do but I know how we are and we are all about sharing our "tips and tricks" with everyone! I think that this may be a valuable product for all of us to keep nearby. In the spirit of this great business I bring you this story. Perhaps someone else may have used a similar product in a similar fashion but I never heard about it!

The male Pinstripe, affectionately named "Band-Aid" will remain in the BPM Collection and he was brought into this world care of Johnson and Johnson and their Band-Aid brand Liquid Bandage!

He entered this world alongside his 4.3 Pinstripe and 2.2 Normal Siblings in one of the most beautiful and amazing clutches of snakes ever to hatch here at Exotics by Nature!

Here are a few photos...

Our "Baid-Aid" Boy...

2 of his GORGEOUS brothers...

The greatest clutch we've ever had...

At this time I would like to thank B.H.B. Enterprises for the chance to work with the Pinstripe Project (Thanks a TON Brian and Lori!) Also thanks to Johnson & Johnson for their pioneering home medical products!

Finally thanks to all of you for reading this! I hope it helps someone save a cool snake!

Good Luck to Everyone!
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Sean Bradley
Owner : EbN
www.ExoticsByNature.com
www.BallPythonMorphs.com
www.CornSnakeMorphs.com

I knew I visited this forum for a reason. Congrats you guys... what a litter... and a good idea came from it, how can you go wrong?

Those pins are sooooo crazy looking.... I say 4 years and we'll have a boa version

You two are having one hell of a year... what weekend is open?!

Guy
GS2boas.com

WoW!!....Awesome animals!! I really like ths pinstripes and thanks for sharing the liquid band-aid tip. I'll have to pick some up just incase.

Corey

Thanks sooo much for this info! The egg you saved could be my own!

This season, I already lost one egg exactly as you described. and right now I am nursing a "nipple egg" that started to go grey this week, a month into incubation.

Questions:

Mine is about the size of a quarter...but the egg is 60% egg and 40% nipple. (There is a viable, moving snake inside though I can see it.)

On the eggs that you saved, how big was the grey area? I'm wondering if my egg is salvageable - it might be a clown!

Thanks, Christy

Hello Christy,

I have not yet used the liquid bandage to seal up a nipple/window that is dry, only when an egg began to sweat. The Spider egg that survived had the entire top half "northern hemisphere" gray and sweating. As I stated previously, the little Spider is distorted but alive. The spots on the Pinstripe, Het Clown and Possible Pied egg were all very small, i.e. they would fit under a dime. I think the key to this product is to catch the spot as it begins to appear.

Please let me know if there are ANY other questions you may have!

Good Luck... SAVE 'EM!
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Sean Bradley
Owner : EbN
www.ExoticsByNature.com
www.BallPythonMorphs.com
www.CornSnakeMorphs.com

Thanks for replying - this possible clown egg is sweating....just a spot the size of a quarter. The nipple part seems to be doing ok being treated with desinex although I will probably seal it up too. I'm going to document my little egg with pictures incase I am successful. Thanks again for sharing. Great clutch btw, and you deserved it for sharing such great information so unselfishly. I'm off to the drug store!

Christy

Christy,
Last year I had a mojave egg that was opposite yours 60% nipple and 40% normal. The day after the eggs were laid I coated the entire nipple with the liquid BA. I didn't have any of the problems I usually have with nipple eggs, and the nipple part never grew any mold, which they usually do from what I've experienced. The bad part was the little mojave didn't have enough room to grow and pipped out at only 18g, the smallest I've ever seen. It had no visual defects but did not have the strength to fully hatch. I've coated fairly large spots on eggs sometimes more then once and had decent sucess with it.
Good luck with that egg,
Eric
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www.ESReptiles.com

Gorgeous clutch!
Its wild how pins all look alike and yet are still distinguishable from one another.

Thanks for sharing too!
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Charles Glaspie

Great idea Sean, man you are just always thinking aren't you? I've lost some eggs like that before too, I think I'll get some of that stuff to keep on hand. beautiful pins too by the way, I still say I like em better then spiders.

Mark

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>>Hello everyone,
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>>I hope to share not only some killer new babies with you guys but perhaps a technique (or product) that may change all of our lives.
>>
>>Have you ever had an egg develop a grayish colored window that began to "sweat"?!? I know that I have! Nearly every time this has happened to an egg in our collection, it was lost. The egg seems to sweat and get gradually worse as the gray "wet spot" expands across the shell. Mold begins to grow on this area and the egg seems to melt away to nothing? Sound familiar? I think we may have found a solution.
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>>Upon losing an entire clutch of Spider x Normal eggs (5 out of 7 to be exact) I brainstormed (maybe a little dangerous in itself!) I tried to think of a way to "seal" the egg back up. I knew I needed something water resistant, non-toxic and somewhat antiseptic. I thought about this great product called liquid bandage! During a horrid trip to the local Wal-Mart (most certainly Satan's lair) I picked up a box of Band-Aid Brand Liqiud Bandage. When I got back to the facility I spread it all over the perishing Spider clutch. I saw that it discolored the eggs slightly at first but after about 24 hours I noticed a few of the eggs not getting any worse. 5 of the eggs were completely destroyed before the Bandage could take effect but two remained. This all happened within 2 days of the deposition of the eggs, roughly 55-58 days prior to hatching. The last two eggs hung on throughout the rest of their incubation period and hatched. One Spider and one normal both of which were approximately 25 grams each hatched. The normal died shortly after but the Spider, although slightly distorted is doing fine.
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>>At that point I was

fairly disappointed that my Liquid Bandage had not done anything but saved an already doomed snake. I was upset but thrilled that I had gotten my first clutch from my Pinstripe x Normal which was 12 beautiful eggs. Another bad thing happens... a few days after deposition the egg on top developed a gray sweaty spot!! In a panic I used the liquid bandage to coat that small area of gray color and crossed my fingers. A few days later that spot turned white again. Upon candling this clutch at about 35 days into incubation I was thankful.... that egg was a PINSTRIPE egg.
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>>I then had a clutch of 9 eggs from my Clown x Normal... wet spot... Band-Aid... white spot again! Followed by another wet spot on a Pied x PH Pied egg... wet spot... Band-Aid... white spot again! I think I caught them! The Band-Aid works! I shared this information with a couple of my customers and they tried it and it worked the same way for them. So I lost the Spider clutch BUT the Pinstripe was saved!
>>
>>While we don't know exactly what may cause these "wet spots" that seem to sweat our babies away, we may be able to save them with a little Liquid Bandage!
>>
>>Now what does one do with this sort of information? I don't know what you would do but I know how we are and we are all about sharing our "tips and tricks" with everyone! I think that this may be a valuable product for all of us to keep nearby. In the spirit of this great business I bring you this story. Perhaps someone else may have used a similar product in a similar fashion but I never heard about it!
>>
>>The male Pinstripe, affectionately named "Band-Aid" will remain in the BPM Collection and he was brought into this world care of Johnson and Johnson and their Band-Aid brand Liquid Bandage!
>>
>>He entered this world alongside his 4.3 Pinstripe and 2.2 Normal Siblings in one of the most beautiful and amazing clutches of snakes ever to hatch here at Exotics by Nature!
>>
>>Here are a few photos...
>>
>>Our "Baid-Aid" Boy...
>>
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>>2 of his GORGEOUS brothers...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>The greatest clutch we've ever had...
>>
>>
>>
>>At this time I would like to thank B.H.B. Enterprises for the chance to work with the Pinstripe Project (Thanks a TON Brian and Lori!) Also thanks to Johnson & Johnson for their pioneering home medical products!
>>
>>Finally thanks to all of you for reading this! I hope it helps someone save a cool snake!
>>
>>Good Luck to Everyone!
>>-----
>>Sean Bradley
>>Owner : EbN
>> www.ExoticsByNature.com
>> www.BallPythonMorphs.com
>> www.CornSnakeMorphs.com

Exotic Ball Pythons

When we talked about it the first time I didn't know exactly what you were talking about...but when I caught on...it was a little late but I still saved 2 from the first clutch. I just got another clutch the other night and by the next morning 3 had started to sweat on me...I used the liquid bandaid and they have all stopped spreading...hopefully they don't anymore at all...
Thanks for the tip and I'll be by soon to check out the pins...they look great!
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

Luke was telling me about this just the other day Sean... Said that you told him about it and it seemed to correct the problem if caught early enough...Now off to the store to pick-up some liquid band-aid...Looks like ya gotta have it on-hand from here on out!! Thanks again!!
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www.bustyballpythons.com

I think it's saved many eggs here. I've used it to coat almost entire eggs that didn't look so good and they hatched. We've also used it on woma eggs, when the top layer of shell ripped while prying them off the bottom of the cage. The one I didn't coat died while the three I did all made it. It also seems to help with mold growth. Be careful which type of liquid band-aid you use, some smell pretty toxic.

Eric
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www.ESReptiles.com

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www.ballpython.ca

Congtats Sean! Sounds as if things are going the you had hoped for. Talk to you soon. -Jared Carr

What great information and WHAT A CLUTCH! I also love the quip about Walmart, and I think you are 100% right.

Good luck with everything else this season, and thank you for sharing.

Debra and Diana
Camlon Reptiles

Hi Sean,

Sorry about the loss and congrats on the save!!!! Thanks so much for the information!!!! Take care.

Best Wishes,

Tony Pappalardo
Living Art Reptiles

Excellent tip....thanks for sharing your knowledge.

GREAT CLUTCH!!!!!!!!
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Jim Perron
Python Passion Reptiles
pythonpassion@hotmail.com
www.pythonpassionreptiles.com

Sean;

Congrats with the great looking hatchlings!
Liquid Bandage is a great product, I used it on Panther Chameleon eggs that were attacked by gnats several years ago and the clutch was saved except a few that were too much damaged already.
BTW, your het pied male went off feed for a few weeks during the winter but he's back to normal feeding now and doing great.

Rob Reiding.

Hi All,

This is the egg I was talking about in my earlier post. This clutch is due to hatch in two weeks. The egg started developing the wet spot about a week ago and it's been slowly growing (I applied the band aide stuff after I took this picture). There is some mold on the nipple part, but I have kept it in check fairly well with desinex. I wiped off the nipple part and coated it with the solution as well.

The egg has a baby inside - although I can't see the pattern well I can see movement - it's definately alive and growing. Can this baby (clown, hopefully) be saved?

Thanks, Christy

Thanks for looking.

Congrats on an amazing clutch!! And thanks for the great tip. Hopefully it's not too late for a couple of my eggs.
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David Thomson
www.DTReptiles.com

np

np
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www.trueimagereptiles.com

Great tip and awesome clutch!!! Couldnt happen to a nicer guy.Keep up the great work. Mark Petros BallPython777.com

Awesome clutch Sean!! Great info to help save eggs!

Tracy/VPI

jc