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hi i just purchased an 8month old honduran milksnake. he is beautiful and looks like most the pictures i see of tangerine hondurans (he has no white striping) and i had thought they were the same and that the "tangerine" title was simply left out occasionally. i realize now that is not the case and wondering what the difference is, colorwise from babie to adult, and genetically. is just the normal "honduran" the dominant/normal type and all the tang/anery/hypo types the recessive? i hope this makes sense and doesn't sound too lame.
thanks,
zen.

Hello, I'm just curious, is Zenny your actually name? if not where did you find the name Zenny? I ask this B-cuz my name (real actual name, not an abbreviation for any thing) is Zenny. seeing it here is a bit of a shocker.

I'm not upset with you for using the name, it's just that Zenny is a rather uncommon name so it captured my eye as soon as I saw it

~ZF

that's funny you say that. because my real name is zenaida. a nickname for it is zenny. most people actually call me zen or zenaida. the weird thing is, i took notice of your name because my middle name is felisa.!
are you female i assume?
z

LOL... I've learned to accept the fact that my name sounds female... I'm actually a guy. and that middle name thing is freaky as well...

do you have any pix of the Honduran in question?

~ZF

okay there's no more picture of him up on the site since he belongs to me now, but this is his brother

ps. where did your parents get a name like zenny? zenny (short for zenaida) is a fairly common name in the philippines, that's where my mom is from and how i got my name. felisa (my middle name)is also common there.

I was named by my father, He had a Friend (an African Biologist) named Zenny so he gave me the name... I believe the individual was Nigerian.

about your question:
if your snake looks like the one in the pic, it's a Tangerine Honduran. the "Wild type" Honduran Milks are tri-colored (red black white/yellow) and Tangerine, which at time varies... I've seen bi-colored tangerines and tri- colored tangerines (where the shades of orange slightly vary).. so "tangerine" isn't in the same "group" as Hypo, Amel, & Anery. (hope that's what you where looking for)

~ZF
"Type II" Hypo Male

>>hi i just purchased an 8month old honduran milksnake. he is beautiful and looks like most the pictures i see of tangerine hondurans (he has no white striping) and i had thought they were the same and that the "tangerine" title was simply left out occasionally. i realize now that is not the case and wondering what the difference is, colorwise from babie to adult, and genetically. is just the normal "honduran" the dominant/normal type and all the tang/anery/hypo types the recessive? i hope this makes sense and doesn't sound too lame.
>>thanks,
>>zen.

In the wild, some hondurans are tangerines and some are tricolors (with white in middle of each triad). Some are inbetween, with the white replaced with cream, pale yellow, bright yellow, gold, or orange.

Louis Porras theorizes the tricolors are the upland animals, evolved to better thermoregulate at higher (cooler) altitudes because they typically gain melanin as they age, often becoming "bicolors" where the light rings are obscured by black, leaving only black and red showing...an overall darker look that absorbs more heat. The tangeriens are reportedly more common in lowland areas...the snake's range extends to coastal areas.

BOTH the tricolor and tangerine "wild types" are dominant to the other--recessive--color morphs: anerythristic, hypomelanistic, and amelanistic.

peace
terry