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He's had a rough go of it lately...been very depressed. Someone had the gall to call him "normal." He got all pouty and went to hide under his log...as he was going he said "you're a crummy photographer Dad, and those guys owe me an apology." I tried to draw him out...the darned snake insisted on being depressed!

Well, last night, he finally came out. He flashed his golden smile at me and said, "Get the camera Dad...wait'll they get a load of me!"

SparkE
(With flash, under yellow light)

He was pretty upset when I only had to part with $60 to acquire him. He said, "What're these idiots selling me this cheap for? Are they BLIND?"

He seemed to feel better when I told him that I would've given the shirt off my back and my left leg if that's what it would've taken to get him!

So this is the second time someone failed to see his beauty. He's getting kind of sick of it...since no one's ever said that after seeing him IN PERSON!

(again with flash, in yellow light)

He's anything but normal.

(with flash, FLUORESCENT light)

This might help.

And as long as he's not convinced, neither am I!

(flash, fluorescent light)

So, we'll know for sure soon enough! How exciting.

Did I also mention he's banded????? I haven't seen EVERYONE'S fires, but I don't recall seeing any banded ones yet...so this is cool!

(NO FLASH, fluorescent light)

NP

Let's see a pic of YOUR fire.

But I wouldnt call it a fire until I produced a lucy from it.

Just my .02 cents

Raul

I've never considered him anything but a VERY beautiful snake. And I've CERTAINLY NEVER considered him "normal." When I bought him, no one was saying ANYTHING about fires on ANYTHING. I got to pick the first guy out of the CH clutch, but he had 4 clutchmates JUST like him (the thought of someone possibly unwittingly having a PET worth so much just makes me chuckle!). They were blinding. Now, I think he has a very HIGH possibility of being a fire. Regardless, he IS NOT a normal. Do you need natural light? I can get that, you know.

As the fire descriptions came out, I began to realize that people were breeding the very same patterns that make him special. Like I said before, the proof is in the incubator!

I'll put him up against ANYONE'S adult fire, ANYDAY! Based on the other possible girl I obtained about six months after this guy, I think the fires could possibly wind up being a lot more variable than people have thought up until now. So a lucy could come along as early as next year. This year, he bred a girl that MIGHT be a YB, so we may see something AS definitive as a Lucy, but new!!!!!!!!!! How exciting!

You say I should wait for a Lucy before calling it fire? Shouldn't others wait for a "nothing" before calling it normal? That's ok...I like being underestimated. In the beautiful words of Jefferson himself: "wait'll they get a load of me!"

Hope you do hatch out something new....

We all have animals that we hope to prove.....

Good luck

Raul

I'm just wondering what blinding characteristic stands out that you can see and everyone else can't as to why that snake isn't a normal?

Not trying to flame, just trying to understand what it is you're seeing.

This is in all the black on his back...since he's banded, it's not as obvious as in the striped examples. It's brown as can be.

WOW! Nice nails..
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Thanks! Worth every penny when it comes time for her to scratch my back!!

Sorry to disappoint both you and Ralph, but that ain't no Fire!

are you suggesting that ralphs animal is NOT a fire.?.?

I may be mistaken but I think Ralph got his from Eric!?
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Tosha

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Ralph HAS got some Fires - from US, but the one pictured is not a Fire. Eric Davies

NP

Ralph and I are very good friends, so if he was to say that the pictured BP was a Fire, I would tell him he was talking out of his A**!!

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Tosha

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." Don Wood

"Of course, that's only my opinion...and I believe I am God." =) Chris Bianco

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I'll show you my Fire when you show me yours. Oh wait, neither one of us have one.

Normals come in many colors, yours is just a light normal. Here's a picture of a few normals for you. See how much they vary in color? If your ball is a Fire I've got about 10 of them. I'll sell one to you for the low, low price of 10 thousand.

BP's? How about you start out by assuming that I've seen more than one BP in my life? How about you don't assume I'm some yahoo who just bought a bp from petco?...how about you assume that my eye is just as good (if not better) than yours, and that my judgment is just as good (if not better) than yours?

I've seen lots of light snakes. I've bought lots of light snakes. They always dull out...I expected him to...and he did, but in a VERY small degree. He's darker than the female "possible", but lighter than ANY normal I've ever seen.

I WILL PUT HIM AGAINST ANY OF THE ADULTS IN YOUR PICTURE, AND I GUARANTEE HE'LL BLOW THEIR PATTERNS AWAY!

You can 'put' him against our 33 Fireballs, and Blackeyed Leucistic male if you want, it still won't turn into a Fireball!! Eric Davies

I would...and I'll bet he stacks up, too.

Sparkey, Do you have any Idea who Eris Davies is?
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Um before you make too big of a fool of yourself -- Eric is the one that proved the Fire. If there is anyone that would know what a Fireball looks like it would be he. And he says no. Sorry, your snake is just a nice looking normal just accept it. By the way your normal doesn't hold a candle to mine. Cheers!

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Tosha

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." Don Wood

"Of course, that's only my opinion...and I believe I am God." =) Chris Bianco

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1.0.0 Angolan Python (Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope John Paul)
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 Pool skimmer rescues for this season

Yes Tosha, I'm pretty sure that he knows exactly who Eric Davis is.... Some people just like stirring it up just for the fun of it.... Of course I myself would never stoop to that level... but hey, he went to all that trouble of taking all of those pictures so he might as well get his moneys worth out of it... and it looks like he did too.... Now the real question is do Mikey and BoB REALLY know what a fireball looks like?????? How do THEY know???? Do they have proof????? Just a few random thoughts.....

VOT

I am afraid they do VOT. We sold them five male Fires in '03 and '04. Eric Davies

It's a nice looking snake alright. Maybe you just have bad lighting, but it really doesn't look much like a Fire to me either. The ones I've seen look more ghost like (not that they are, just that they have that "look" to them). But good luck with it, whatever it turns out to be.
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Tosha

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." Don Wood

"Of course, that's only my opinion...and I believe I am God." =) Chris Bianco

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope John Paul)
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 Pool skimmer rescues for this season

np

...that explains it
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done. I guess I have the wrong stuff...cause I just dont see any Fires in my collection LOL!!! Wait I think I might have some Fires too.......no that's just my PDH Jolliff Snow
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Yours is a fire because you say so? Well then, mine is a fire too. She's not a normal that I traded two baby cresteds for at a show. Matter of fact she's het caramel albino pied. Cuzz I said so.

I even have a partial body pic to prove it.

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I'm looking at him now, comparing him to the pics...it's the color that doesn't come through right. I'll try to get a few in the daylight. He isn't so much "light" colored, as he is BRIGHT colored. I'll return with pics taken in the sunlight as soon as I can manage.

Brian

face defeat like a man bro. these guys say its not a fire its not a fire. I'm pretty sure all 20 of the guys who say its not over rule urself sayin it is. just face it that you got ripped off if you payed a lot of money for the thing