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Can anyone tell me, can you keep a jungle carpet and a berm in the same large cage? (not including feeding)

I assume you mean "burm."

Can you do it? Yes. Is it a good idea? No, especially if there's a large size difference (as there certainly will be soon if there isn't already).

How much does an extra rubbermaid container for a juvenile burm cost, for crying out loud. For that much money you'd stress both animals out and ensure transmission of any diseases one has to the other?

No, I am looking at a $3,000 cage for my 'burm' and just wondering if housing a carpet with it was a good idea. So what your saying is I should keep the carpet in a bucket?

you could keep 2 snakes together, its not a good idea, it can lead to stress, anorexia (this is a symptom of something wrong, not a disease in reptiles), disease transmission...and a host of other very bad things, honestly the cons far outweigh the pros.

as for keeping a snake in a "bucket", not at all. the most successful keepers and breeders use rubbermaid storage boxes of various sizes. they make EXCELLENT snake housing. they hold heat and humidity very well, allow you to locate the snake before you open the container, and at the same time allow the snake to feel more secure because they cant just see thru the sides. rubbermaids are easily ventilated, simply use a soldering iron to melt some holes in the cage. so again, its not just a "bucket". rubbermaids are far superior to any tank out there, tanks are for fish, not snakes. rubbermaids also make lightweight cages, something that can be very important when it comes time to clean the enclosure. besides, if the carpet youre getting is a baby the absolute BEST enclosure for it would be a rubbermaid (or sterilite, really any of the transluscent plastic boxes) shoebox. it makes them feel much more secure, and insecurity can lead to feeding issues with carpets. again, its not just a "bucket".

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Jaymz
"got a bowlin ball in my stomache, got a desert in my mouth. figures that my courage would choose to sell out now..."

I am sort of mirroring what Jaymz has said, it is definitely not a good idea to cross species like that. Oftentimes even the same species don't do well together. I am no herpetologist by any means, but from what I know, snakes are generally solitary creatures. Definitely nothing wrong with putting one of your pets in a rubbermaid, but there are also some relatively inexpensive and attractive cages out there. Check the dealers section of this website for a bunch. Have fun with your snakes and post some pics if you can, I would like to see them.
Take it easy and good luck,
Dustin

Thanks for the info guys....

I have a 9 month old burm, about 5' long. She lives in a 24"X24" glass enclosure now (with a hide), however I am not sure how much space they need. I know she will need a much larger enclosure as she gets older, so I am looking at a 48"X96" enclosure. Is that too large? Also I am quite taken with jungle carpets and would like to get one as a second snake. I am thinking about breeding a pair of carpets as well. I guess I will just need to get a second enclosure (or third?). How large do carpets get and how large enclosure do they need? Do they need room to climb? Do burms need room to climb? Can I "over handle" my burm?

I have lots of questions and have not found any help at the pet stores here, just some info in books telling me not to get a burm. Any information will be very helpfull.

Is I get it figured out, I will post pics of my burm resting on our cat I renamed 'clueless'.

Thanks again, any information will be very helpfull...

Dan

I can't offer much for info about burms, but I have several jungles and can offer some insight into them. They will usually climb, as a matter of fact I have never personally "known" a jungle not to climb, but there probably are exceptions. They are a fairly slender bodied snake, and the biggest specimen I have ever heard about (not seen) was 8 feet. I have a decent sized male that's a bit over seven. I have never bred them, but there is a good amount of info on the web about the matter, and if the amount of hatchlings for sale on the classifieds is any indicator, they reproduce readily in captivity. An adult carpet will probably need somewhere around a 3 foot cubed enclosure, and that is tight quarters for a 7 footer. 4l x 4w x 3h would probably be a decent size. I can't help but plug a little, but I just got two beautiful jungle hatchlings from Tony Hurt, who has some ads in the classifieds. I hope this info helps. Also, in regards to your burm, don't forget the burm forum here on kingsnake, and check to see if there are any caresheets available under that listing above. Check out the other carpets too, Irian Jayas, coastals, bredlis, etc. They are all great snakes. The bredlis are big bucks these days, but maybe you've got the cash.
Take it easy,
Dustin