Have fun with these!
same snake, with flash photography
and a different snake
Sorry, but I'm not including any hints.
Shane
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Rat Snake ID?
TxHerper
Jun 07, 2005 10:43 PM
Replies (11)
chrish
Jun 07, 2005 11:03 PM
just off the top of my head, I would have to guess black phase Elaphe persica (or whatever genus persica is in now).
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Chris Harrison
Kevin Saunders
Jun 07, 2005 11:17 PM
I'll guess buttermilk racer.
dustyrhoads
Jun 08, 2005 12:23 AM
Looks more like a black racer, coachwhip or a dark phase buttermilk racer than it does a rat snake. My #1 choice would be a darker colored buttermilk racer.
Dusty R.
lolaophidia
Jun 08, 2005 06:19 AM
Looks like a racer to me also. That inset eye (the way the orbital bone protrudes over the top) looks different than the typical rat snake.
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Lora
7thscience
Jun 08, 2005 06:24 AM
Yup, definatly snakes.
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Jason
TxHerper
Jun 08, 2005 09:14 AM
Chris is on the right path, but think farther east.
Shane
chrish
Jun 08, 2005 08:16 PM
and frankly I never would have guessed that. You didn't mention anything about rising suns.
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Chris Harrison
TxHerper
Jun 09, 2005 01:05 PM
I didn't guess it at first either, as I had never seen pics of melanistic specimens. My initial thought was climacophora, but luckily there is a good field guide to Japan by Goris and Maeda.
Shane
hermanbronsgeest
Jun 19, 2005 01:14 PM
Is it?
TxHerper
Jun 09, 2005 01:02 PM
Elaphe quadrivirgata
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Quite a common find in Japan. I will say this though, they are much more "racer-like" in behavior than American rat snakes.
Shane
phiber_optikx
Jun 09, 2005 10:51 PM
Looks almost like a ribbon snake with a racers head to me 
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