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question on black rat.....

phiber_optikx Jun 08, 2005 06:32 PM

I was wondering if there was a difference between a normal phase black rat and a black black rat? Jollifs graph confused me a little.... http://market.kingsnake.com/image/331310.jpg
thanks a lot
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Redtail "Kilo"
1.0 Ball Python "Road Hog"

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draybar Jun 08, 2005 06:49 PM

>>I was wondering if there was a difference between a normal phase black rat and a black black rat? Jollifs graph confused me a little.... http://market.kingsnake.com/image/331310.jpg
>>thanks a lot
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yep...
if you look at my post just below you will see a normal black rat
{Some pattern showing)
and here is a picture Steve posted farther below.....I hope yopu don't mind Steve. It is a good picture of a "black" black rat.
basically solid black (very little to no pattern showing.

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

phiber_optikx Jun 08, 2005 08:19 PM

So I am guessing that the black phase is indigenous (sp?) to sw Missouri because all of the wild black rats I have ever seen have absolutely no pattern....
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Redtail "Kilo"
1.0 Ball Python "Road Hog"

Paul Hollander Jun 09, 2005 04:00 PM

I looked at that chart, and the normal doesn't look like the black rat snakes that I have seen from Iowa, northern Missouri, Maryland, and Virginia. All the adults I have seen looked more like the black in the chart, which, if you look closely, has a hint of pattern. I wonder if that normal could be a juvenile black rat. Or maybe it is either a gray rat snake or gray rat x black rat cross.

Paul Hollander

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