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...Tx-Mex longnoses...& moe...

regalringneck Jun 09, 2005 02:33 PM

...Well I started to retrieve the Rhino shot to compare w/ Happycampers Tx specimen & decided WTH, I'll just do a short Alamos Sonora post.
This is not a place for the casual herper, nor should it be on your first few trips to Mexico, unless you're with experienced travelers.
It is a fascinating land however....a dry tropical deciduous forest
See http://www.desertmuseum.org/programs/yecora_index.html for a wonderful taste of the area.
We had visions of our first Indigos, Boa constrictors, Micrurus corales, Beaded monsters, etc...it was mid September...end of the monsoon...peak period for neonate emergence..
We worked it pretty hard...fantastic birds, flora, people & culture...but the herps were pretty darned hard to come by w/ the exception of frogs & toads. Way more DoR's than I'd expected.

Heres a few of the highlights...

What a landscape, such a damned pity the Mexicans followed our govt [& the aggies @ Texas A&M who are dumber than boy bush] advice & planted freeking bufflegrass everywhere, but the overstory is rich & diverse...where it hasnt burned...

Now heres the Rhino that precipitated this post..to my eye...very similar to Tejas,... as are, I hypoth-eculate [a good idea w/o data!]...the indigos too.

Heres a turtle the local naturalist (S. Myers) advised us was fairly uncommon...& I bet I know why...the recent burning of the bufflegrass is killing them off...see the scarring on the legs...

It would have been a crime not to find all of our first horridum(s),...but I'd been skunked before around P. Valarta & elsewhere...

Incredibly painful that it was DoR & the only one we found! Who on a slow road could hit such a critter? The campesinos unfortunately...
We were bummed when a truckload of local police pulled us over late that nite driving down a local dirt road...the monster was in the back awaiting a better daylight photo-documentation session...but they were probably looking for guns & tons, not loco gringos seeking serpentes y taran-tulas!

OK, this has taken long enuff...adios / RxR

Replies (2)

Fred Albury Jun 10, 2005 12:58 AM

Awesome post . Thanks for sharing your trip with us.

Fred Albury

regalringneck Jun 11, 2005 04:31 PM

Greetings Fred, at al. &Ya shamed me into putting a bit more effort into it

Heres some more nuggets & perhaps some useful txt from that long overdue sojourn...

Alamos Trip report 9.10-13.2004

This txt documentation initiated by John Gunn 9.17.2004. See also other jpgs bundled w/ this file in a folder named Alamos-9-2004.

EVERYONE HERPING THIS AREA NEEDS TO BE FAMILIAR W/ MOCCASINS & MICRURUS CORALES = Do not grab Sinaloan milksnakes by hand..A MISTAKE COULD & HAS BEEN... DISASTEROUS!

Local Biological Contact: Stepanie Meyer; For more information contact Stephanie Meyer, Natural History Tours, sameyer92@hotmail.com
David K, Dan J., & myself traveled to Alamos nearly non-stop on 9.10.04, a 12 hr. grind. Lots of Hwy. Patrol cars on Mex. 15, lots of toll booths too...we returned to Az the evening of the 12th, roadcruised the Ruby Rd & then camped out @ Pena Blanca, arriving mid-day back in the Phx area on the 13th. The trip was all of our firsts to Alamos Sonora, though Dan & I have been to numerous other locations in Mexico. Lots of cops ranging from local/state & army around Alamos, apparently this is a gateway to serious narco-trafficking area & eco-tourists need to stay near areas recommended by Stephanie Myer.
The weather in Alamos was warm to hot & very humid, it was not uncommon to step out of the truck & have ones glasses completely fogged! One morning was cool & relatively dry. One evening we had a heavy but brief "tormenta". The ground was damp, lower areas were flooded or muddy, mosquitos were an issue, tho manageable w/ OFF-DEET. Bufflegrass unfortunately was in many pastures & road edges. N. of Hermosillo; it is a disgrace what is happening to the lowland desert.
Alamos is apparently situated at the lower edge of the TDF veg. type. It apparently receives nearly 40" of ppt/annum. Likely largely in the summer monsoon. The area is apparently frost free, w/ many interesting vines & other flora examined, photographed & generally awed about. The columnar cacti growing in the limbs of the larger trees as well as up through the dense tangle of Burseras & various leguminous trees, festooned w/ flowering Queens Wreath or Morning Glory vines... created a spectacular floral visual in most viewsheds.
I had a long list of herps I was hoping to see, but I wasn't quite sure how many to actually expect. I think we did fairly poorly on herps., tho the trip overall was a hugely positive experience for all of us.
The only commonly seen saurians were Urosaurus & occasional Ctenosaurs [spiny-tails], largely green yearlings. One Anole was found as was a Calicephalus-type skink. The dense group of neonate zebra-tailed lizards on fluvial sediment bars along the Rio Chuchujaqui was a pleasant deviation from the norm of few if any feeder lizards in view.
One varanid was found, an adult male [DoR] H. horridum. It was located east of town on the dirt road leading to the Rio Chuchujaqui bridge. Pity.
One Chelonian was found, an adult male Spotted Box turtle [Terrepene nelsonii] w/ heavily scarred forelimbs.
On Anurans we probably did fair: Bufo xxx, Lepto...-xxx?, Rana xxx, Hyla xz,
On serpents we did terribly....DoR; 1 longnose, 1 nightsnake. We roadcruised after dark, during the AM's, & during the day. We did find 2 adult Drymarchon [Indigos] sheds along the banks of the Rio Chuchujaqui. David K. found a Tantilla under one of the many cover-sites he peered beneath!
The lack of snakes despite wet, late summer conditions [w/ a new moon] baffled all of us. Stephanie advised us of another group who had apparently faired poorly the week prior to ours. She also advised us that a large Indigo was seen basking by her front gate just the day before our arrival! On our return trip, we observed a live Pituophis, Masticophis piceus & bilineatus, & a Salvadora, mostly on the Ruby Road in Az. The lack of boas, indigos, vines, corales, & green rats still bothers me....the overall absence of rattlesnakes including DoR's is odd too. We noted a conspicuous lack of Thamnophis/Natrix along the several stream beds we walked all containing numerous tadpoles & fish.
Mammals...significant were grey fox, Mexican opossum, striped & hooded skunks, a few heteromyid rodents; pocket mice, K-rats [small]. Packrats, & Rock Squirrels were seen too. Few active rodent burrows were seen. Unfortunately, free roaming cats & dogs were commonly seen away from habitations while road-cruising at night.
Grazing of livestock & goats was apparent, but not nearly as heavy as it might have been.
Avian fauna was fabulous. Trogons, caracaras, black-vultures, greyhawks, a short-tailed hawk, gorgeous magpie-jays, Sinaloan crows, parrotlets, elegant quail, ground doves, & numerous beautiful hummigbirds reminded us we were truly in the tropics & made us look up often.

Once you're viewing this sign...you're about to explore an interesting area, complete w/ a live river, & canyon wall & terrace habitat. Heres is where we came close to the indigos...

One of our party absolutely horrified the other 2 of us by free-handling one of these horrible beasts, Id rather handle a krait!

I for some reason, was [& still am] blown away seeing organpipe cactus growing from the branches of this big Bursera tree.

See also Robichaux, Robert H., and David A. Yetman, eds. The Tropical Deciduous Forest of Alamos: Biodiversity of a Threatened Ecosystem in Mexico. 260 pp., 6 1/8 x 9 1/4, 19 halftones, 5 illustrations, 4 maps, 2000. Cloth (0-8165-1922-6) $52.00s.
See also http://www.desertmuseum.org/programs/yecora_fauna.html

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