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Is it possible w/ out putting too much stress on the female?

Thanks,
Andrew

Its not really possible because the male will constantly try to breed with the female which is not healthy for her. if the female is always with a male, its like a puppy mill, but with lizards and its not healthy.

The only safe and healthy way to do it is to have a breeding colony of one male and two or three females. This way the males attention is divided amoung the females. If you do this however, you need lots of space and also you must be aware of the specific care for a breeding group of beardies vs. just having one, and also the process of having many babies, or at least working with the moms to be through the egg laying process and then freezing the eggs. I would say that unless you are really interested in breeding lots of babies that its not worth it.
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Sigh. Does anyone get tired of the same questions being asked over and over again? Dude, if you check out the last 2 pages, I guarantee you'll find your answer. This question gets asked at least once every 2 days. There's even a handy "search" feature! I'm not trying to be rude here, it just gets tiring is all. Anyway, unless you're very experienced and have an extremely sizeable enclosure, just don't do it.
-Nicky
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Freak, this continues to amaze me also, but what is really dumbfounding is the moron that jumps into these threads and says, "Well it's a matter of opinion." I know, the babysitter will delete this because the truth may hurt someones feelings. (Some of these folks need to spend time in some of the other forums.) The only people who should be housing these animals together should be breeders and 99% of them limit the exposure as not to put their dragons at risk. Sorry, just read enough cruelty for today.

I agree. It's not a matter of opinion. There's simply far too much of a risk with co-habitation in most cases. When I did rescues, I saw so many dragons with missing limbs from being attacked by a cage mate. And gravid females at 10, 11 months old. Sickening! So I agree...unless you're a top breeder, with MANY, many years of experience...keep them separate!

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This battle all alone
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No place to call home
-!ALICE IN CHAINS!-
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2.2 Cats: Zeus, Remi, Kiki & Delilah
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My Cheeky Girl

And I'm really very glad someone asks before they throw dragons together. Lets not forget what this forum is for.
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With all due respect, for me it does get very aggrivating. I just don't understand why ppl post this when if they'd look a few threads down....there it is again! I do agree that it is much better to find the answer to the question beforehand...unfortunately there seem to be too many people who ask too late. By the way, I bought a hammock from you a couple years back...it's still holding up! One of the best reptile related purchases I ever made.

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We face the path of time
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And yet I fight
This battle all alone
No one to cry to
No place to call home
-!ALICE IN CHAINS!-
1.1 Bearded Dragons: Gordo & Chiquita
2.2 Cats: Zeus, Remi, Kiki & Delilah
1.0 Betta

My Cheeky Girl

I'm glad it's still holding up..Thanks for the comment

I've probably answered the same questions a gazillion times over the years, although, yes, it can get old. I just have to assume that maybe someone isn't familiar with the site, doesn't understand how to work search engines..or even is just lazy...lol
I'm sure I asked some pretty dumb questions a few years back too.
As long as the person gets the correct information by whatever means possible for their dragons well being, I'm a happy camper.
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>>The only safe and healthy way to do it is to have a breeding colony of one male and two or three females. This way the males attention is divided amoung the females. If you do this however, you need lots of space and also you must be aware of the specific care for a breeding group of beardies vs. just having one, and also the process of having many babies, or at least working with the moms to be through the egg laying process and then freezing the eggs. I would say that unless you are really interested in breeding lots of babies that its not worth it.

I agree... I house a trio of dragons together, but I take certain precautions such as feeding them seperately and providing two basking spots. Unless you give special consideration and attention to each animal, this CANNOT be done. By the way, it seems as if everyone here thinks that the male will continue to breed and breed with the female(s)... This is generally not the case, once the female is gravid, she stops being receptive, and the male stops attempting to mate with her. The only problem you could really run into in that regard is if the female is too young/small to breed and gets eggbound or something.
-Drew
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I believe the worry, or at least my worry, is not that the male will try to breed with the female when she is gravid, but that he will ocnstantly do it when she is not gravid. This constant attention could lead to constantly being gravid which puts a huuuuge strain on the dragon and can adversly effect their health as well as increasing the risk of the female becoming eggbound
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0.0.1 Red Tegu
0.1 Bullmastiff
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Thanks for your help everyone.

Thanks,
Andrew

>>>I believe the worry, or at least my worry, is not that the male will try to breed with the female when she is gravid, but that he will ocnstantly do it when she is not gravid. This constant attention could lead to constantly being gravid which puts a huuuuge strain on the dragon and can adversly effect their health

While nothing is etched in stone and every male dragon is different, it has been my experience that a "mature" male will not continuously try to breed a female. Unless, that is, she is removed and re-introduced to the cage frequently or he is able to see another displaying male. However a young male can, and will, try and breed every female and often be belligerent about it. Usually a 1.2 mature trio is stable though.

The problem I have run into is the stress on the females. Having to be submissive every time you turn around is tough on them, really tough if the male is dominant enough that she has to wait to feed. Females need a break especially after egg laying to recuperate.

Bob
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