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I would like to get a male P. Asio with in the next year. I would like to link up with someone who breeds them. I don't want WC. Suggestions??

I am also interested in P. douglassi. Are they being breed in captivity? Or are they not legal to obtain to breed?

Thanks,
Angela

WOW! how much do you know about Phrynosoma? good luck trying to fill that order. I can hardly think of 2 more nearly impossible species to locate CB or otherwise! Asio are protected where they naturally range. Douglassi are protected in some areas.

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison

Actually, there are those breeding Asio. Most of these are in Germany but there are some stateside as well.
Although you are correct, they are not easily obtained.
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www.phrynosoma.com

Asio Link
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www.phrynosoma.com

That is an excellent link with well written, clear information. I had attempted to email JJudd via the listed email, but it was returned as undeliverable.

are you wanting the Dougalssi hernandesi, as it was before the split with Hernandesi? In other words what is regarded by most now as a Hernandesi, but still some others as Dougalssi also? or do you strictly want the Douglassi as it's regarded now to exist only in the northwest? ROF

taxonomy is taxing on the mind!

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison

I should have written Phrynosoma hernandesi. Thank you for asking as I was not aware of the recent distinction between the two. I am interested in the hernandesi and not douglasii. Is any one raising CB P.hernandesi?

Wow, what a difference that just made. your goal just became several fold more attainable by that distinction, I can tell you.

I can't help further though. I only know about WC right now, that I'm trying to put back there.

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison

so I appreciate you asking that question. I would have not known that there had been that distiction otherwise. Now, it appears that my job is much easier. : )

it is indeed. for how long have you studied Phrynosoma, and have you kept other herps before?

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison

I have kept reptiles since 1989 0.1 Bell's Hindged Back tortoise & 0.1 eastern ornate box turtle.
I have kept a variety of lizards since 2001. 0.2 Chuckwallas, 1.0 bearded dragon are the ones I've enjoyed most. I took in a pair of texas horned lizard for about a year and have always wanted another. Les was very helpful giving me a crash course in husbandry.

ok, so that's some experience.

but, I caught something...an "eastern ornate" you kept? do you mean T. ornata ornata? it occurs more easterly than the T. ornate luteola...but is still considered a "western" box turtle, just as the other ornate species is.

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison

Hobbs is a T. ornata ornata. I had no idea they were considered a western species.

most definitely. there are the "Eastern Box Turtles", which encompass all the subspecies of T. carolina; and there's the "Westerns", in which the ornates are classed.

Mick
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"When tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign foe."

James Madison