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HUNTERS GUIDE TO THE MORPHS... PIEBALDS AND RINGERS

nextworld3 Jun 15, 2005 03:53 PM

I have seen some confusion lately with the Ringers and Piebalds so heres the GUIDE!

Welcome to the Hunters Guide...
Here you will find all the details you will need to seek out the Piedbalds and Ringers

Q. What is a Piebald?

GENETICS:
Simple Recessive. The amount of white on the body of a particular snake does not seem to have an effect on the amount of white its babies would have. Meaning a low white Pieblad can have high white babies and High white Piebald can have low white babies.

Answer...
The Piebald in my opinion is one of the most spectacular morphs out there! The upcoming combos should be a huge hit on the market place.

1. Piebalds should be easy to identify, but i have noticed some confusion with them and the ringers. Piebalds are a COLOR AND PATTERN mutation! First off Piebalds have white areas on the body, shown with the RED circles (the amount of white is Highly variable and I will show different variations later in the guide) Second Piebalds have an aberrant body pattern shown with the BLUE arrows. It really is that simple, if they have a white spot and a normal pattern they are a ringer (which I will also show later in the guide) and if they have varying amounts of white AND an ABERRANT body pattern then it is a Piebald.

Variations and Examples:

Variation 1- This is a fantastic example of a low white Piebald, Once again notice the aberrant body pattern in BLUE arrows and the White in the RED circle.

Photo by Ralph Davis

Variation 2- This is another example of a low white piebald, this on could be confused with a ringer by a beginner. If you look closely you will seen the aberrant body pattern in BLUE and the white spots in RED.

Photo by Ralph Davis

Variation 3- The last low white Piebald, This particular male has a very aberrant body pattern with lots of blushing as shown with BLUE and the white shown in RED.

Variation 4 - THE HIGH WHITE PIEBLAD! nuff said

Photo by Ralph Davis

Part 2 : The all confusing RINGERS

Q. What is a RINGER?

Genetics:
Unknown

Answer... Ringers genetics are not understood at this time, they seem to pop up in clutches from time to time and are brought in as captive hatched babies. Time will tell if there is anything going on with these guys. Hopefully there is!

1. This is an EXCEPTIONAL ringer! The difference between Piebalds and Ringers, is that ringers almost always have very little amounts of white as shown in the RED (this particular Ringer is what I would call a high white ringer) and NORMAL body patterns as shown in BLUE.

Photo by Ralph Davis

2. This is a close-up of the white spot on a ringer. The white spot is shown with the RED arrow. The PURPLE arrows show the orange color that surrounds the white spots on a ringer.

Photo by Ralph Davis

3. This is another great example of a Ringer, Notice the white spots with the orange color around the in the RED circles . As you can see the body has a completely "normal" pattern as shown with the BLUE arrows.

Photo by George @ Top Shelf Geckos

There are many more variations of Piebalds and Ringers, but they all follow the same rules.

Piebald-
1.Variable amounts of White on the body and stomach (from low white 5% to high white 95% The head always seems to be have a normal coloration)
2. The non- white body area is Highly aberrant .

Ringers
1. White spot on body or stomach with orange coloration surrounding it.
2. "Normal" body pattern.

I will try to get more pictures of the different variations of the different Piebalds and Ringers for you all and post them here.

Hope this helps
The Guide

Link To the Guide

Replies (5)

anson Jun 15, 2005 06:29 PM

No, seriously what do you make of this? Is she normal or have you seen this kind of pattern before?

anson Jun 15, 2005 06:31 PM

Not too many people replied as to what they think she is or if she is a normal.

nextworld3 Jun 15, 2005 06:50 PM

Hey,
She is a very nice animal!!! She looks kinda like a harlequin??? Breed her and see!

anson Jun 15, 2005 06:58 PM

Some people are really quick to jump down your throat and say she is not a morph but don't say anything if they think you do have a possible morph.
I have one more question. She has a hard knot in her stomache at the spot where the yolk sac attaches. I wondered if it was a urate ball. She has not passed it and I can still feel it. It moves up and down but is kind of stationary and returns to the same place. She has eaten 3 meals and shed twice but it is still there though it has not grown at all. If she is eating well and acting normal should i be concerned. My vet is in orlando and I am in Tampa so if it is just urates I hate to take her in for nothing. She does not look bloated. Have you heard of something like this before?

OC-Balls Jun 16, 2005 11:01 AM

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