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I picked this little guy and his sister up from friend of mine a few weeks ago. He has eaten and shed a few times now and this is how he looks ... jut wanted to get others opinions


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thisone got washed by the flash

The freaky little sister , she has super cool "thong head pattern" lol


this one shows her "undies" on her head. she aso has a very funky color to her like the color the Motley ( just the color lol )

and the pair

An just because he is so damne pretty here is my lil Gem ...

"Blow" the Snow Boa

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Whatever she is she is amazing! Her sis looks like a dumeril and that snow is really awesome. Congrats on the great find.

Sam

Looks fairly close but I don't think those are arabesque. They look like they have a bit of Suri. influence. They are very great looking boas.

I don't know...he's VERY interesting looking. My gut opinion is to say, "No, he is not an Arabesque" but the more I look at him...I don't know. I say prove it out!! Who knows what that might be!

And I agree with Sam - that female sibling is awesome! I love her dumeril-looking patterns! That Snow boa is killer too! Very nice photos...the white really stands out in front of the green!

Thanks,
Celia

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Ok now to elaborte little more on the background of thi pair .

Mother:

The mom was central american boa w striped tail. nothing overly amazing about her other then having 4-5 til saddles connected. was her first time being bred

Father:

Very light classic BCI no striping no speckles also first time breeder

Litter:

0.7
5.0
1.0 still born (as always with the still borns he ws amazingly colored and striped with full mocha brown chainlink saddles

out of all the babies there were 6 with striped tails

out of the litter these two i got along with 2 other were the top picks with the other two being super thin saddled andstripe tails.

I picked these two cause i always get the call when he drops boas there and drive 3 hrs to get my greedy little hands on pick of the littrs lol . I picked him due to his arbesque look to him. I will say i am NOT CALLING him arbesque becasue i dont know the genetics on them for proof so there for he has been Named "Ahab The Fake ARAB" to keep it imple lol

The female i picked her due to her dotted back and black sides nd the great head pattern on her. At this point I can only say that the mothers striped tail carried on to 1/2 the babies i will feel confident on saying the striping carried on from the mother

Main reason i posted this was i have been seeing many Arabesques" that looked much less like what i know as one then what this one looks like. I also Noticed you mentioned the " circles" on the head pattern. I see this in yours posted ceila but if someone would like to explain a little of the "genetics" of a Arabesque or where ican do a reading on them to lern more ..

Thanks again

alan
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Arabesques are a co-dominant morph. If you breed an Arabesque to a normal, statistically, 50% of the litter should be Arabesques and 50% should be normals. I believe Steve Hammond did the first successful Arabesque x Arabesque breeding last year and produced some "Super Arabesques".

From what I've been told by other breeders, ALL true Arabesque Boas have the dot or dots on the top of their head. I believe Arabeque Boas are classified by this marking on top of their head as well as by the connected saddles and generally a ladder tail. I have also noticed that a large majority of them have a lot of peppering/speckling although I have seen a few that are extremely clean. I would be interested to see/hear if the bellies of these clean patterned Arabesque Boas are speckled or not. Mine has a ton of speckling along her sides as well as on her belly.

Thanks,
Celia

Arabesque Boas

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Nice pink and very little speckling for an arabesque he is also het for albino. Just thought I would share. He is the best one I produced this year.

sweet..
love the tail on that one!
you should let me grow him up for you, oh and would you
mind if I bred him to my albino and kept a few babies?
lol

oh hey, stuart, I got your email, I'll respond soon, I am lazy

np
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the other distinct thing about them is the head marking. It has a very distinct shape and is the same on all of them. I remember Jeremy Stone posting that on some of the hypo arabs, he was only able to tell that they were arabesques based on the head marking and the body color. The body pattern was less defined due to the hypo gene. Just thought I would throw this out. Here's a pic of my '03 female het albino.

Matt Crabe

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I can't really add anything about the arabesques that hasn't already been said in this thread, but I just wanted to say that those suckers are beautiful!!!! lol
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