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If I breed and Salmon het for anery to a Salmon het for anery what is the outcome? Would there just be ghosts in the whole litter? Or is there other factors? Thanks Andy

You should get Ghosts, Salmons, Anerys, and Normals. Of the Ghosts and Salmons, some would be supers so you could call all of them Possible Super Ghosts and Possible Super Salmons. I think that's right...please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Celia
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Thanks Celia, I don't know why I was thinking they might all be ghosts...If you breed Salmon to Salmon don't you get all Salmons?? If not how does that work? Thanks Andy

Salmon to Salmon will give you 25% Super Salmon, 50% Salmon, and 25% Normals. Since you can't tell the Super Salmon from the Salmon, all 75% would be considered Possible Super Salmons.

Super Salmon to normal would give you ALL Salmons.

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Celia
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Salmon X Salmon

Each salmon will give its hypomelanistic gene to 50% off the offspring, which offspring? Who knows.

Possible scenarios:

*Both Salmons give their hypo gene to the same 50% of the offspring (unlikely but possible)* Yeilding 50% Super-salmons and 50% normals

*Both Salmons give their hypo gene to different offspring (unlikely but possible)* Yeilding 100% CoDominant Salmons

Those are both possible but unlikely scenarios. Mesh them together to get a more probable answer and you get:

25% SuperSalmons; 50% Salmons; 25% normals

Andy,

Try to work it out like this, sometimes it is easier to understand.

First deal with the anery gene. Each parent in your case is het anery. Remember we are forgetting about them being hypos right now, because that has nothing to do with the anery gene. So in het x het you would get 1/4 anerys, 1/2 het anery, and 1/4 normals. The problem is you can't tell the het anerys from the normals, so they would be 66% het anery.

Now for the hypo gene. Try to think of the hypo gene being het for super hypo and that will help you understand. So breeding hypo to hypo is basically breeding het x het, so you would get 1/4 super hypo, 1/2 hypo, and 1/4 normal. The only difference from the het to het anery breeding above is that you can tell the het animals since hypomelanism is a dominant trait.

So, now that you have done each trait individually just put them together. Say you had 16 babies to make this simple. Of those 16 babies, 1/4 (or 4) should be super hypos. Now of those 4 super hypos, 1/4 (or 1) should be anery, 1/2 (or 2) should be het anery, aka dh ghost, and 1/4 (or 1) will be normal. Then just break them all up like this. However, with this breeding you will have to sell all the hypos (ghosts included) as possible supers. And, you will have to sell all the non anery siblings (hypo and normal)as possible het anery.

Hope this helps,
Matt

Thanks Matt, that sure does simplify it for me. Thanks again. Andy

>>If I breed and Salmon het for anery to a Salmon het for anery what is the outcome? Would there just be ghosts in the whole litter? Or is there other factors? Thanks Andy

if one of the salmons was a super then their may be a possiblity of all ghosts,But no guarentee!Now I can say that if neither one of the parent are supers that you will have a combination of anery's,double hets,het for aney's,an ghosts!But if one of the parents is a super their will be no het for anery's or anery's!Their will be ghosts an double het for ghosts!Maybe someone with more knowledge can help out with this!Because I do believe the only way of getting a whole litter of ghosts is if one has a dominent or super ghost!Hope this helps!Eric[Hypoboa]
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Thanks Eric, ....Celia just said the same as well. I was thinking Salmon to Salmon made 100% Salmons and that would create the 100% ghosts...If Salmon to Salmon still produces normals, then can a Super bred to a normal still produce normals? Maybe my brain is just not computing this morning...I did get a new het albino today!!! Thanks Andy

Continuing with what's already been said...

If you breed a Super Hypo x Hypo you'll get 50% Super Hypos and 50% Hypos. Since you can't tell which are Supers you would just call the whole litter Possible Supers.

If you breed a Super Hypo het Anery to a Hypo Het Anery, you'll get 25% Ghosts and 75% Hypos all possible het Anery. All the babies from this litter would also be considered possible Supers (Possible Super Ghosts and Possible Super Hypos het Anery).

If you breed a Super Ghost x Anery you'll get ALL Ghosts (just regular ghosts - none of them would be possible supers).

If you breed a Super Ghost x Ghost you'll get 50% Super Ghosts and 50% Ghosts. Once again, since you can't tell, the whole litter would be considered Possible Super Ghosts.

If you breed a Super Ghost x Super Ghost you'll get 100% Super Ghosts.

Hope this helps too!

Thanks,
Celia

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Thanks for the info. I feel as though this really helped. Thanks Andy