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What are the kind of waters that have the red tail?While herping today i found 2 more diamond backs and the one with the red tail.All of them are babies.I plan on taking 2 of the 3 diamond backs to my grandmothers because at her pond the population is geting low.My friend told me he wants a pet snake and i think he would take care of it so im going to let him choose between the diamond back and the red tail one and which ever one he doesnt choose im going to keep.
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Zac

We could ID the snake much easier with a pic. rela hard to tell without one.
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Justin

the pics

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Zac

another

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Zac

Wow, At first i was like, midland water snake, but the 2nd picture I can see it is a a redbelly water snake baby.

To bad it doesnt have a bit of red on its belly.
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Zac

You may be right i look up red belly water snakes and mine looks similar but mine has a pattern on his belly and the redbellies dont.
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Zac

When the redbelly matures it loses its pattern and the red will start to show up on the belly. It is a redbelly water snake.

I see the pattern now, it looks like a redbelly but now i seen the pattern it looks more like a midland water snake, where was the snake caught at, that will help alot even though there range overlaps.

It coudl ver easily be an intergrade between a midland and redbelly, or a redbelly a banded, many combinatioon, as long as they are both in your range. I'd have to see the snake in person to know for sure.
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Justin

They were caught in oklahoma city,oklahoma.There are only diamond backs and the snake with the red tail ive seen adults of the red tail one and they look the same if anything there are diamond back x midlands i seen a water orgy and there was one midland in the group and on the same day i seen a midland crawling around with his hemipenes out.
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Zac

ok, Ok is rigth above luisiana right.lol. Well, if so yellow bell water, midlands, diamond backs, and northerns chare the range. it could be one of those, or intergrade of them. Pure yellow bellies usually look a little but, not much btu just a tad darker at that size and the pattern is different. I am not too sure. if it were rigth here in front of me I could tell for sure though.
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Justin

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Zac

what state did you catch the water snakes in? that would give me a better idea of what kinds are in your area... anyways i hope you arent keeping all the snakes you catch...

I already answered that question.Im only keeping one of them.
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Zac