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i have the opportunity to aquire 2 100% het orange ghost males in a trade deal, the gentleman also says he has 100% het butterscotch ghosts that will be available in 2-3 weeks that i can substitute for 1 of the het orange ghosts

should i go for the 2 orange ghost hets or split it up 1 of each

is the pastel compatible with the butterscotch ghost as far as making a pastel ghost

Why get two of the same morph? Get one of each.

Chris
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mean people suck

if i breed a het butterscotch to a het orange will i still get ghosts

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Chad Bachman

Nice people suk too!!.......LOL
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Chad Bachman

Only if you sweet talk them first...

Chris
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mean people suck

It takes more than sweet talking for the nice ones dude!!!!!!!!!LOL.
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Chad Bachman

You actually have to spend $$ on the nice ones, or at least let them play with you snake first.
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Chad Bachman

At least the VPI line does (nicest line of hypos I have ever seen). I have a male Butterscotch hypo from VPI lineage & it blows away 98% of the hypos I see posted on this forum, and his sibling blows him away...They are sweet!!

I realize hypos are hard to take accurate color photos of, and maybe that is why most here seem blah to me, but I have also seen various line in person & none come close to the VPI Butterscotch line.

JMO
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Chad Bachman

I'm a big fan of the ghost/hypo balls, I'd love to see a pic of yours.

You gave it a big build up so don't hold out now LOL

TomChambers

I will take some photos soon (he just shed out today). This particular line stays sweet even as adults. The animal I have was produced by Jeff Yohe in "04" & even grnd dad still looks sweet. This line actually looks hypo instead od just having a clear shed. Be patient, I hate taking photos & figuring out how to post them...LOL
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Chad Bachman

This guy is one of my favorites in my collection.

besides his appearance he has a great temperment.

he's 1100grams now and is holding his looks

one more

These were taken last Oct.
Time to take some updated pics......... soon.

TomChambers

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Chad Bachman

Scotch Ghost.... That is....Here are 2 photos....This is supposed to be a NERD line....

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)...Man that was a nice one...
2.0 Mojave Ball pythons(05)
0.1 Spider Ball(04)(RDR)
1.0 Butterscotch Ghost(04)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
4.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
2.8 Orange Granites(05)
1.0 Yellow Belly(04)(Ian G)
2.0 Yellow Belly(05)(unproven)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's
13 baby 2005 PASTELS just HATCHED...4-8-05 and 5-10-05

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Edited on June 24, 2005 at 17:24:36 by phwyvern.

Nice one! I like how the Butterscotch hypos almost always look better as adults than the other ones (I know there are exceptions). How big is thst one?
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Chad Bachman

I had the first Butterscotch Ghost back in '93 that I purchased from an importer. He said the animal was faded. I purchased her and raised her up and I bred her to my Yellow line of Ghost. I named them Butterscotch and the name stuck. To me that is the color that best described her appearance. I am glad that people like the name and especially that they like the Butterscotch Ghost. They are awesome.

Kyle J. Stevens
Royal Variations

hate the name Butterscotch, but I love it. It does descibe their coloration almost to a T. Now Green & Orange hypos are a different story (the name "almost" never fits their coloration).

Thanks for the info.
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Chad Bachman

Hi Chad,
Butterscotch is not the most impressive name but I was thinking of the actual color of the animal when I named them and I am glad some people like the name. Thanks for the comments.

Kyle
www.artist-kyle.com

Since I'm just wishing, a couple of every morph out there...

np

some orange ghosts look like just the over (top ) colors are faded.........and some butterscotches look like they ahve 2 layers faded....an underlying hypo look to them......( didn't Barker say they have 3 layers of pigments).....

hard to describe........

.......they may be compatible to breed together.......but I think some are different.....
not all

.............alot of oranges look like butterscotch or yellow.......

look at like Morton's...they are really orange........yet not as overly faded..they stay bright in the background yet the black (dark brown) is still actually fairly dark....

like I said.hard to describe......

bottom line...to the origional poster.....get one of each if you are getting any........

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when a person imports a sweet looking hypo & keeps his line from being crossed into other peoples line it tends to stay sweet looking. Out of most Butterscotch lines & Orange lines I see, the Butterscotch is almost always more hypoish looking (more washed out looking). Green hypos are the same also, so why did Kevin give them the name green? I call them what they look like & happen to like the Butterscotch line the best.

JMO,
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Chad Bachman

I really don't mean to discourage you, but I believe you have much more to learn before you can make an informed decision.

Trust me... you'll be happy you did.

Oz
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OZZYBOIDS

which homework would u be refering to,i am trading a sub adult female for 2 100% hets but i had a choice between 2 of the same or 2 different so i asked for some opinions and i wasnt 100% sure how the compatibility was with 2 different ghosts

Trust who you're buying from.

For all you know they could all be normals.

Do your homework and make sure the person you are trading with it reputable.

Ryan.

Love the bottom male.
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Chad Bachman

That het ghost males are a dime a dozen and if your goal is to produce animals NEVER EVER EVER sell good females!!! So you get a few het males, what are you going to do with them? Breed them to a different normal...make possible hets? Save your female and your money and buy a pastel male and do it up!