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And this Leo is...?

Canio Jun 25, 2005 09:14 AM

This is Jessie. Does anyone have an idea what morph he might be?

Thanks,

Jon

Replies (20)

AlteredMind99 Jun 25, 2005 12:41 PM

Looks like a hypo to me, but im still trying to figure all these morphs out
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0.1 Bearded dragon
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake
1.1 Leopard Gecko's
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Anerythristic Corn
0.0.1 Red Tegu
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

cherribomb Jun 26, 2005 10:17 PM

I agree with AlteredMind...Hypo. Not quite Hypo tangerine...but she is SO cute! Look at that smile
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

BlueLeo Jun 28, 2005 07:17 PM

Over the years i've been getting good at identifying leos, i'd say its a super hypo, not quite a super hypo tangerine.

AlteredMind99 Jun 28, 2005 07:31 PM

whats the difference between hypo and superhypo?
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0.1 Bearded dragon
0.1 mexican Black kingsnake
1.1 Leopard Gecko's
0.0.1 Tokay Gecko
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink
0.0.1 Reverse Okeetee Corn
0.1 Anerythristic Corn
0.0.1 Red Tegu
0.1 Bullmastiff
4.1 Cats

BlueLeo Jun 28, 2005 10:29 PM

The amount of spots.

cherribomb Jun 29, 2005 12:01 AM

No post
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

cherribomb Jun 29, 2005 12:03 AM

no post
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

BlueLeo Jun 29, 2005 09:06 AM

..... Super hypo means minimal to no spots..........

cherribomb Jun 29, 2005 11:06 AM

The definition does vary among breeders but the majority consensus is that "super hypo" means NO spots on the body and REDUCED spotting on the head. Not a baldy, but there you have it.

I'm sure there are a couple breeders who cheat and call their hypo geckos with limited but obvious spotting "super hypo", but that's B.S. if you ask me. How else are we going to differentiate between hypos, super hypos, baldies, etc? Hell, why not call it a patternless while you're at it.
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

BlueLeo Jun 29, 2005 11:45 AM

Because you obviously don't know what your talking about.

GreggMM Jun 29, 2005 01:12 PM

Blueleo, I have a strong feeling it is you who does not know what you are talking about.....

The meaning of hypo is less than normal melanin or in the case of leos, spots.....

A suer hypo would be the super form of a hypo.....

Now if you knew anything, you would know that in order to get a a true super form of anything, the genetics would have to be co dominant.....

Many big breeders speculate that the hypos that were imported into this country a few years back are infact co dominant.....

What do you think about that???

BlueLeo Jun 29, 2005 06:11 PM

What do i think of what, about their guess that the hypos were co-dominant?

GreggMM Jun 29, 2005 07:36 PM

No, about your guess that super hypo means minimal spots....

BlueLeo Jun 29, 2005 09:28 PM

Well i posted a question about that some time ago on a different forum (one that you visit) and i got an answer that said that it depends on the breeder and they can have minimal to no spots, Heres a perfect example. This is a link to an available page of a pretty well known breeder and scroll down to his super hypos. www.progeckos.com/for_sale/available.htm

GreggMM Jun 29, 2005 09:53 PM

I see what you are saying but the real meaning of "super hypo" is..... The super form of hypo.... In order for it to be a true super hypo, it would need to be a co-dom hypo.... The ones that are not co-dom are line bred and usually develope spotting as they mature.....

Same goes in other morphs in reptile species like mack snows and tiger retics.... Super snows and super tigers are the result of breeding co-dom snows and co-dom tigers....

GreggMM Jun 29, 2005 10:03 PM

Also, that leo IS a tangerine.... It may not have the high level of orange coloration that the higher dollar ones have, but it is still a tang....

cherribomb Jun 29, 2005 10:54 PM

Its nice to get solid input from a reputable breeder that actually knows what he's talking about...for once. I know you have the know-how to back up your comments. And I think there are many people that would agree with me. Thanks for setting everyone straight! (I never would have considered yellower colorations as Tangs, but now I know)
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Too many Leos
1.0 feline "Spot"
0.1 canine "Tika"

Canio Jul 01, 2005 02:05 AM

Thank you all for your input. Just to make sure I have this correct...the consensus seems to be that Jessie is a hypo (Super hypo perhaps but for now I will go with just hypo lol). Now when 'that gecko' was mentioned as a tangerine was that meant to be Jessie? If so I assume then Jessie is a hypo tangerine...correct?

Thanks!

Jon

GreggMM Jul 01, 2005 08:33 AM

That would be correct Jon.... And a very pretty one at that.....

Canio Jul 01, 2005 10:58 AM

Gregg,

Thank you. He is a great gecko...very ornery so my wife says he has to be 'my' gecko. Takes after his old man I guess LOL. He was my best herp bargain ever. I got him and another gecko as babies for $20 (for the pair). The other is a normal but Jessie turned out very well indeed. Thanks for all your help.

Jon

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