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I'm not sure if this a copper head or not. Can anyone please help ID this snake?

Thanks

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1.2 Normal BCI
0.1 66% poss DH snow BCI
0.2 Pastel BCI
0.1 Pastel Het Albino BCI
1.0 Anery BCI
1.0 Striped Albino BCI
0.1 Salmon 66% poss DH snow BCI
1.0 Salmon Hog Cross BCI ssp.
0.1 Hog Island Boa BCI ssp.
1.0 Poss. Super Salmon BCI

3.4 Ball Pythons

Its a northern water snake ( nerodia sipedon sipedon.)

Zach...

yes it appears to be a northern water, perhaps even a midland, but does not have the bright colors of a midland. IT is not a copper head, copperheads look nothing like that really if you compare. perhaps the color is similal, but one of the simple ways to remember it is copper heads, have the bands in a certain order, wide on the side, narrow int he middle, and wide on the other side, makign it look like an hour glass if you look at it fromthe sides and above. The head structure is totally different. go here and there is one in the pics. http://[bleep]//view.php?site=fieldherpers&bn=fieldherpers_fieldherping&key=1117481267
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Justin

Nope its 100 percent northern its from PA only northerns there lol...

oh I did not know it was from PA. I must have missed that part.lol.
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Justin

I think SecretSReptiles is trolling anyway. It is obviously not a copperhead, and if he didn't know what it was, why post in the watersnake forum?

Maybe right, but others that visit the forum but don't post may leanr something?
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Justin

before you guys think you know it all lol... it was posted on the milk snake forum and the what kind of snake is this? and on this one so it wasnt just on the water snake forum.. Im not talkin about you justin..

looks like my northern.

maybe he was just joking since idiots think they really are copperheads or cottonmouths?
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0.0.1 Chrysemys picta picta (Eastern Painted Turtle)
0.0.1 Teliqua gigas (Indonesian Blue Tongue Skink)
0.2.0 Eublepharis macularius (Leopard Geckos)
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon (Northern Water Snake)
0.0.1 Rhacodactylus ciliatus (Crested Gecko)
?.?.? Assorted goldfish, minnows and guppies
1.0.0 Ferret
1.1.0 Cats
1.0.0 Aussie Cattle Dog/ Border Collie Mix

That leave me I guess, I certainly do not know everything, like how can you mistake a water snake for a copperhead? or worse yet a dekays brown snake, another common mistake. I try imagine the kind of person who would make that mistake, and I am dumb founded, because the person I picture would be unable use a computer, not being bright enough to type or too blind to see the screen. I don't mean to insult well intention people looking for information, I just don't find it believable.