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Why have you decided you need to shake this board up? Your reality check post came along and now we are gonna start the name calling and bashing...this is not cool. It seems you are the odd one out as of late so you have to start with this kind of nonsense. I think I can speak for a lot of us when I say please stop. I hate when a lot of valid points are made and comments are posted that end up in the entire post being deleted. Be objective as much as you want, you have every right too. This second coming of the Anti Keith posts are because of your smart a$$ reality check post. I do not want to start a big war of words again, and I hope you don't get all worked up over this. I just thought I would make a new post to try n save the valid info on the older posts that are on thier way to being deleted.... Tom Stevens

Oh Tom how history repeats itself. You one time posted here that there are people who have said to you in private they dont care for me or something like that. I am able to say the samething about FR more than a few people have said to me in private a few things. I wont mention any names but I can see whay they wouldnt say anything in here. Im done with the FR thing everything he says is written in stone go forth and build your 10' cages for your 3 foot Kings and rejoice when you get the same yeild of eggs as before . As far as name calling better read the posts better as Rainer accused me of something I dont do and he knows it, but he slandered me anyway. Now for you to get up here and tell me to quit with the name calling is a joke Tom.
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Keith you slandered me ya bone head.

Also Frank (FR) is a great guy. He probably helped invent snake breeding back in the 70's and actually did invent monitor lizard breeding.

I have said time and time again many things work, and I do what I can to be successful. I encourage large cages because I like to give my snakes room and think people may be missing out on some enjoyment from something as simple as a display cage instead of rack systems. I too use them, and I always will have some in racks. I give advice to new people and share info with experienced people just the same. It is what the forum is for. I get my share of Anti Tom mail here n there and all I can say is like I care? Some of the people posting here as of late are making us think about things from other angles and I think it makes for good discussions. Frank has a lot to say, but the thing he says the most is let the snakes tell us what they prefer. Not we need to start from scratch and forget everything we have already learned. At least that's how I would sum it up in one sentance. This is my favorite forum, and I will give my opinion often. I try not to bust anyones balls, and hope no one busts mine Tom Stevens

Well said Tom.

Man, I've been gone for two days and like a soap, I can pick up where I left off! More kingsnakes and info to chew on and less General Hospital! LOL! Or maybe more 'cause nothin' on t.v. is this entertaining! I love working with kings and think all of the people who have worked ANY with them have something to share, right or wrong, it's how we learn. If someone's whole collection crashes, I bet they change some things pretty quick the next go around! But we all have made or make changes over time and that is what is important. NO ONE will achieve 100% viable eggs 1005 of the time and bring them full term 100% of the time with 100% healthy offspring! Nature doesn't work like that and if man succeeds in that then we are a stones throw away from being replaced with "perfect" people. And who do you think will be high on the list to go? The snake freaks, of course!!! LOLOLOL!!! Let's just try to do what is best for the animals in our best capacity. Heck, I look forward with great expectation to this first clutch I found (4 of 9 eggs not eaten or bad to begin with) like a child on Christmas morning and hope next year to take all this stuff I learned here and share it with some kids. Yea for us all who love the snakes!
Todd Hughes

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Please use the brain you have. About set in stone, it seems your head is.

I use the term "consider" thru out my posts. To consider, consider this, consider that. Do you know what that means? if means for you to think about it, to take into consideration. It does not mean, you must do that or that is absolute fact. TO CONSIDER. Please consider, you should learn to read and not place your thoughts in others posts.

I firmly believe, your objection is not about that anyway, your only grabbing at straws. I would think theres plenty of room for both of us and others, in this forum. Heck I do not keep eastern kings, I do not talk about them, I leave that for you. So please do . Talk about them, show them, discuss them to your hearts content, and leave us to our favorites. Also, leave me out of your posts, Thanks FR