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Kelley/ onfire_4jesus I am moving your thread so others can help, too.

lele Jun 27, 2005 08:18 PM

Kelley,

I replied both here and on the Veiled Cham subforum (for anyone interested please go here for background) forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=826487,826487 but would like it to stay here because you have a serious problem and your cham needs YOUR help and a VET.

So please reply here - and PLEASE do the right thing by her...get her to a vet.

lele
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Replies (2)

all2human Jun 27, 2005 09:26 PM

Kelley,

Your chameleon is obviously ready to deposit eggs. Most reptiles cease food intake, or at least decrease it drastically, prior to oviposition. Your lizard can retain the eggs for a bit longer, but the possibility of eggbinding is high if a suitable laying site is not provided. The following is a very brief personal technique:

1) Fill up a container, preferably a cilindrical one (such as a 5 G. bucket or larger), with at least 8 inches of playsand.

2) Add water to the sand while mixing it until you obtain the correct consistency. NOT SO WET OR DRY so that when you try to make a tunnel it collapses.

3) Stick a small branch into the sand to allow the animal to rest on it if it chooses so.

4) Add a small spotlight (or fluorescent light) above it, and a screen lidm if you have one. Make sure that the temperature inside the bucket does not exceed 90 degrees. ****Obviously, the temperature DIRECTLY below the spotlight (if you are using a heat bulb) will be a bit higher than 90 degrees. Just make sure there is a gradient.

5) Place the animal inside the bucket, and DO NOT DISTURB IT. CHeck on it every 20 minutes or so, if possible, without letting her see you.

6) The chameleon may make MANY "test holes" before it decides to use one, or it may, if it's desperate, dig the first one and lay there.

7) It may take up to 12 hours to complete the whole process, although I have seen C. lateralis do so in 30 minutes, using the first "test hole."

8) Once it has begun digging, DO NOT TURN OFF THE LIGHT, even if it takes longer than 12 hours. The chameleon will dig (usually) until it can dig no more, or until it has reached the bottom of the bucket. There, it will continue digging around until it creates a large enough hole to turn around. Then, it will begin climbing back up, expose its head, and begin laying. This may take anywhere from 10, to over 30 minutes. Once the chameleon has finished laying, it will cover the eggs until no trace of digging is left. IT IS IMPORTANT to allow the female to finish the whole process (and COVER THE EGGS), as to not disrupt this very synchonized biological process.

9) After she has deposited the eggs, TAKE CARE OF HER first: Place her in the shower (or mist her) to wash out all the sand around her eyes. See if she will drink. Then place her inside her enclosure and take care of the eggs accordingly.

I apologize for such informality and lack of organization in my message, but I hope it wil help you.

All the best,

Fabián
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Fabián Aguirre
Zookeeper/ Freshwater Aquarist
Department of Herpetology and Freshwater Biology
The Dallas World Aquarium
(214) 720-2224
fabian@dwazoo.com
www.dwazoo.com

onfire_4jesus Jun 27, 2005 10:24 PM

I just want everyone here to know that I am not a hardhearted animal hater as it may have sounded in my last posting. I have 5 dogs, 2 horses, and tons of cats that are all spoiled to death. When I got this chameleon I was not as educated as I should have been. I didn't know that females did this, nor did I know that this was a female. Petsmart did not do a good job of telling me this either when I bought her. I do understand that she is my property and I do have an obligation to help her out, but I am only 18 years old with limited funds and am not ready to dole out $800 in vet bills on my chameleon. I was trying to sell her before she started all of this, due to my new knowledge of this occurance (eggbinding). I will go get sand first thing tomorrow morning and get her going again. I used moist soil with vermiculite and she never got the job done. I wish I had someone around who was more educated in this type of animal. They are very hard to read and I am really worried. She is God's creature and I DO want to take care of her for that reason. God has placed her under my care and it is up to me to keep her from suffering and all costs.

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