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I posted this pic on the hybrid forum too, but couldn't contain my glee. This one is the only baby resulting from my female normal phase Prarie king x Snow phase California king. I had one other not quite make it out of the shell, and that one looked anery-ish. I was just blown away by this one, though.

Looks like a orange calligaster with the attitude of a fiesty baby cali. I'll bet it eats great, thanks for sharing.

Are the eyes red?

If so, that would explain that specimen's color, and it's sibling, which would've been a het.

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Sharp as a marble, eh?

I am sure the breeder knows what he has there......

You must have had that female in with amle Prarie or it retained sperm from a previous season.

Thats an albino Prarie king.

I replied to this in the hybrid forum, but this female was an absolute virgin when I got her from her original owner, and he raised her from a baby as his only pet snake. I do not own a male prarie. The only male that she was bred with was a snow phase california king, and a normal 50/50 cali. This baby IS an albino, so I assume the snow cal is the father.

nate.

Well first can you define what you mean by "snow" cal king ? Do you mean a high white desert cal or a albino? Is the Prarie and albino or a normal. Is it het for albino. Is the cal king and albino or normal? Did you happen to take a pic of the dark looking baby from the other egg?

Maybe more info is needed to solve this mystery but I can assure you that is a not a cal king x prarie. Even if it came out looking more calligaster it would still have some cal king infuence. It looks just like a pure Prarie.

See also my reply in the hybrid forum.

By "snow", I mean an amelanistic cal king that came out without any yellow markings. I am told by the breeder that this is essentially an albino version of a very melanistic cal king. I have also seen the name "blizzard", but it is basically a patternless albino.

Pics to come.

Also, Does anyone have pics of other such crosses, as I haven't seen any.

Thanks,
nate.

I know you have another post on the other forum but I am replying to this one you started here.

I have done a lot of crosses and I pay attention to any new ones in the market. Sometimes when doing a 50/50 hybrid back to one of the original pure species you will get some neonates that look more like the pure spp. but that is because it is essentially a 25% 75% cross. In you case there is no sign of any cali in that snake which makes me doubt what happened there. The other thing is you bred an albino to an unkown het Prarie. Then we discover the Prarie king is allelic to the Cali gene. If this is true then that is an interesting revelation on its own.

I am not saying you didn't breed the Prarie to a snow cali, I just think there is more to this than we (you and I) know.

Can you post a pic of the parents?

If it looks like these.......

There aren't any "snow" cal kings

Kerby...

and that the term "snow" is misleading for the high white (desert) cal king but some people still call them that.

I am just trying to get at how a Prarie king was hatched out from a hybrid breeding. If you look at the snakes color, pattern and even body shape there is no cal king in it. For all intense purposes IT IS A PRARIE KING. With my expereince hatching out hybrids I have never seen this occur with any 50/50 cross. I have seen some that looked similar (but still not close) from a 50/50 bred back to its pure form ( creating 25/75%) but only one came out of a large clucth that looked similar to the parent form. You could still tell it was a hybrid though and all the others looked like obvious crosses.
This was only ONE clucth out of many and then add the fact this was a albino cal bred to a unknown het Prarie (which are supposedly unrelated alelles) and the albino came out looking like a normal Prarie. IMO very strange and very unlikely circumstances.

It's not adding up. And it does look like a prairie king. I'm not that familiar with hybrids but I didn't think the albino gene was the same?

Kerby...

nm.

Thank you, Kerby. This is exactly what I have. Sorry for using the wrong term. By the way, those two are awesome.

Thanks,
nate.