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They're aesthetically pleasing, and ventillation is certainly not an issue... If the corner posts really held the glass well, they would probably be sturdy as well. I'd like to know if there are any cons with the design. Thanks!

They really are a nice cage, especially when you get their light fixture and use overhead heating IMO. The only drawback is that the litter dam is low - substrate can't be too deep or it falls into the door tracks (which isn't a showstopper or anything, but as long as we're nit-picking..)

Nice cage for kings/milks/corns/etc. Cheap too.
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Mark G

"Sweaterboxes are boring"

Thanks again for your input!

I've kept both milksnakes and kingsnakes very well with under the tank heaters, so I'd probably stay with that method. The substrate potentially getting into the tracks would be an issue as well as anything more than a 1/8" gap between the glass doors. I'd prefer a deeper terrarium as well.

The design rocks though!

I just got a few of these to fit into a built-in bookshelf- they look very nice!

I echo the concern about the substrate in the track, I just keep a paintbrush handy to brush it out, but then I have to run the vac to clean up the floor...

I am still working on balancing the heat- I am using some with the dividers, which fit snugly and firmly, but for the first time I didn't actually use the adhesive to attach the heater pads, just taped them on, the plastic bottoms don't conduct heat so fast as glass, which I think is good as I keep mostly colubrids that don't need to be baked... but it is a different game than glass tanks...

I've had trouble finding locks that fit- I'm assuming the ones Vision sells fit fine, but I wanted a different look and got another manufacturer and they are too thick- you really need the very skinny 1/16" ones...which leads me to say the door gap is really very small, you would be quite hard put to spread it to 1/8" I think. Anyway case locks aren't available at all hardware stores...

The corner posts/units are quite sturdy- no fear of them spreading, but I am concerned about the size of the holes- I am holding off putting in small hatchlings, it's doubtful they could squeeze out but I'm afraid the openings would be tempting for a small snake to focus on and repeatedly try to get out. I really need to make some tests on that point...I don't say one way or the other just that I'm concerned.

I like them but am still getting used to them...

PS-

When I got mine- they were well packed, with the glass sensibly in very good separate packaging in the center of the box- but for some reason only one door piece in one box was completely shattered- the packing had held it so firmly it didn't rattle at all, the only way I can imagine it was broken was if it happened before the glass package was put into the main box, and it just wasn't detectable-

Anyway Vision responded immediately with a gratis replacement, I was very pleased.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my post, wombat. You've provided exact answers to my queries...! Once set up, they really look great, don't they?