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nate351 Jun 29, 2005 08:31 PM

here is a pic of the baby albino, and her sibling that didn't make it out of the shell. I have compared the dead sibling with the mother ad nauseum, and can find very striking differences in the pattern, such as the near-perfect stripe down the back. Is there a striped calligaster?

Thanks,
nate.

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bluerosy Jun 29, 2005 09:18 PM

You can't really tell from the pic what it is. Striping does occur with calligaster. The mother you posted leans towards some striping. Striping will not tell us wether it is a calif king x Prarie. A better pic of the dead one might help to see what the shape of the snake is. At this point the dead snake is inconclusive and the albino is a calligaster.

nate351 Jun 29, 2005 09:22 PM

I just wanted to let you know that I have since contacted the previous owner of the female, and he confirms that this snake has NEVER been with any other snake of any type, and that he has had it since it was a neonate. I know that this snake has NEVER been exposed to another prarie since I have had it. Any other possibilities?

Nate.

FR Jun 29, 2005 10:01 PM

common in kingsnakes, we have recorded it at least three times.

Also Dr. Gordon Shuette, did a paper on this subject and proved that many types of snakes had this happen.

What is unknown is, why, where, when, how, etc.

I have seen twice where hybrid breedings did not produce crosses, but instead only the females normal species morph.

I believe the folks here are right, that pic appears to be a normal albino calligaster. The next step is up to you, after it grows up some, you may want to take a tissue sample and send it to someone who can test the actual genetics. Good going and please follow up on it. FR

nate351 Jun 29, 2005 10:05 PM

Thank you, and I will. I was wondering about that, as well, but thought that when it happened, the baby was essentially a clone of the mother. The baby that didn't make it is also very different from the one that did. Even if the mother is het for albino (which I don't know), could she have an albino baby? Not sure, really...

thanks again,
nate.

HerperHelmz Jun 30, 2005 12:31 AM

She has to carry the albino gene if she produced an albino baby.

Mike
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thomas davis Jun 30, 2005 10:43 AM

that i hatched last year, sadly it died a few months after hatching, both parents were w/c and dont really show any striping they have bred again this year and i am currently sittin on 9eggs hopefully i will get another stripe,,,
on a side note i dont think that is a calligasterXgetula cross it looks pure calligaster to me but i could be wrong,,,,,,,thomas

antelope Jul 01, 2005 02:28 AM

Too bad, that's an awesome looking calligaster. Love the head pattern, looks like a Q.
Todd Hughes

Kinglvr Jul 05, 2005 05:25 PM

Would you care to tell me how the little guy passed on? Do you know?

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