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I wanted to know what the difference would be if I bred a 100% or 50% het male albino to my normal female? I'm very interesred in getting into albinos, but I can't get the money for one right now. Any input would be a great help.

Thanks Kim
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.1 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon

If you breed a 100% het (which means it IS a het) to a normal you will get all 50% hets which means they all have a 50% chance of being a het. If you breed a 50% het to a normal you may get hets back or not depending on if the 50%er turned out to be a het or not. Breeding a 50% het to a normal is pretty pointless!

What would I have to do after breeding the 100%? Do I breed one of the babies (after it's of age) to the father? Or two of the babies together? I'm sorry if these are stupid questions, I'm just trying to figure it all out.

Thanks Kim
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.1 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon

With breeding a 100% het the resulting clutch statistically would be 50% het albino, and 50% normal.

If you choose to breed a 50% het albino to your female you may be breeding a normal to a normal. The 50% het means that the snake has an equal chance of being a het or a normal (you cannot tell other than breeding him to prove him out)

I would go with the 100% het male. You are then assuring yourself that the your snake has the gene you want. Breed him and hold back all your female offspring and then breed him to these females when they are ready to breed.

100% het albino males are relatively inexpensive to all of the other morphs out there. You can probably find one for 100$-150$.

Tom

Thank you very much for the info. I guess we all have to start somewhere. LOL
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.1 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon

buy your 100% het breed him to a normal female (or two if you can afford them) - if all works well you'll get about 6 or so babies (pray for females) - if at that point you find breeding balls enjoyable and want to try for your albino - sell all your 50% babies and then buy yourself a 100% het female raise her up and breed her to the male. If not then you haven't spent too much money for nothing. Even if you just breed him once to a normal female you should be able to sell a whole clutch of CBB possible het albinos for about the same amount as a single 100% het female.

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Tosha

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." Don Wood

"Of course, that's only my opinion...and I believe I am God." =) Chris Bianco

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope John Paul)
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 Pool skimmer rescues for this season

Not being a well known breeder it will be impossible to sell the 50% het for albinos for any real value. You would be best breeding a 100% het male to a normal female then raise up all the females and breed the father back..

So very true.
It is tough to sell hets,let alone possible hets.Since paperwork for those are basically not even worth printing up.(Since there no guaruntees of the gene even being there anyway).

While the advantage of essentially trading the clutch for a single 100% female is a great option.(Especially if you prefer to keep a smaller colony).The odds are not bad at actually at getting more than one het out of your het to norm breeding anyways.
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Charles Glaspie

You really think?

Cause I'm seeing 50% females priced around $100 a piece flying off the shelves - grant it the males are virtually worthless but I can name ya two or three people that just made 4 to 6 hundred of their clutchs of 50%ers (pretty much the price of a 100%er). There are a lot of people out there that think the 50% are a cheap easy way to an albino that's why you don't see a lot of them for sale - people hold them back to prove them or people grab at them to prove them. Again - just females, not really males.

The trade idea is nice - I'd trade a 100% het albino female for 6 normal cbb females and the possible het would just be a bonus.

Of course I've been known to be wrong! LOL
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Tosha

"Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed." Don Wood

"Of course, that's only my opinion...and I believe I am God." =) Chris Bianco

7.33.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope John Paul)
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 Pool skimmer rescues for this season

male albino hets are about $100.........

50% are not guarenteed to actually be a het...

do the math

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IF you can afford a female het also it would pay off alot better in the future for you......

about totally $800 a pair......

IF you cannot get a female....at least get a male 100% for $100 and breed it to some girls then keep all the female offspring and breed them back to daddy het and see which are het and which are not....

it takes years to do this not weeks.....

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another option that has worked for many breeders that participate in this forum. Why not buy a 100% het male and 4-5 females that are 50% possible hets? Female possible hets sell for a little more than normals and a lot less than 100% hets. This would give you an excellent chance at producing an albino in the first year of breeding. If only 1 female proves out to be a het, you've got your albino and 4 clutches that will include 50% het females. Statistically, half the females that you've raised up to breed will prove to be hets. A worse case scenario, which I believe is not likely to happen but could, is that you now have 4 - 5 adult females that are just normals and 4-5 clutches that will include 50% het females. Those 4-5 adult females are worth their weight in gold at the right time of year. You could trade them and end up with an albino or ???
50% hets are extremely under rated. They are a great way to start a project on a budget.
John Q

For my own first pairings..the males i used were brothers from a het caramel to normal female pairing.
Which gave me two coin tosses at getting a het male(was still much cheaper than buying an o3 100%'er).Now i plan to raise the females i hatched from both males and breed them to either a 100% het or a caramel(dependes on what else i hatch out next year,)

Yep...the long way for sure...but it gives me "25%'er" females for when i actually make my way up to the caramels.

...amd its definetely a "side project".
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Charles Glaspie

Thanks everyone for all the info. I was going to try and breed my normals next year, but I love the albinos. I was just looking through the classified and saw all the hets for sale and it really got me thinking. Of course my husband has no idea what i'm thinking. LOL. Our budget is a little tight now (3kids, 2dogs,1cat,2rats,5snakes,1lizard) So i'm thinking even though it will take years with the 100%, it may be my only way.
Thanks Kim
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.1 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon