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BrianSmith Jul 14, 2003 11:10 PM

At the time of me posting this topic, 7 out of 7 forum members voted in favor of a giant constrictors forum that includes all the giants in a single catagory. That is as unanimous as a vote can get. How do we go about asking Kingsnake in an official way if the implementaion of such a forum can be done? Please help.
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

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terdball Jul 15, 2003 09:38 AM

With all due respect, I think this is a bad idea. I'm sure everyone would like to initiate a forum they can call "their own", but where does that end? Next thing you know, someone wants a "most agressive pythons" forum. Or how about a "smelliest pooping pythons" forum. See where I'm going with this? I think the forums are just fine the way they are.

RobertPreston Jul 15, 2003 10:19 AM

I think the issue here is that both the retic and anaconda forums are a bit dead much of the time. The burm forum has the most traffic, and most burm keepers (the experienced ones anyway) have some kind of interest/experience/knowledge of varying degrees with the other giant snakes. It is very easy to discuss retics, African rocks, anacondas, burms, even redtail boas, on one forum. Many of the topics discussed and questions asked on this forum would be applicable to the other giant snakes. I like checking out the other forums, but I find it aggravating to look at the retic and anaconda forums only to find them all but dead. We had a lively discussion about African rocks here a few days ago, and the seed for a giant snake forum as opposed to all these other separate forums was planted there. I don't see the sense in having all these different forums, especially when the traffic on some of them is so low. Combining a few of the forums into one giant snake forum would allow for more traffic and a more diverse exchange of ideas. I think it's a great idea.

RP

terdball Jul 15, 2003 11:32 AM

It might also generate too much traffic, thus forcing people to sift through a plethora of posts to find one that suits them. The Indigo forum is somewhat slow, sometimes stagnant. Should we turn that into a "large colubrid" forum? Of course not. If the other forums are slow and that bothers you, do something about it. Generate more conversations. Introduce topics. If it aint broke, don't fix it!

mrci Jul 15, 2003 06:30 PM

It IS broken, and badly. Kingsnake has a ridiculous number of forums, making life very difficult for people who are interested several species. We really don't need 30 separate snake forums -- that's absurd. And another 27 on lizards.

mrci Jul 15, 2003 06:34 PM

Oh, and what "plethora" of posts would we be sifting through? Today there have been exactly three new threads in the burm forum, three in the retic forum and zero in the anaconda forum, for a whopping total of six threads. I know there are some slow readers out there, but really!

terdball Jul 15, 2003 06:42 PM

I see your point! Clicking that mouse an extra time or two to jump forums can become absolutely exhausting.

BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 06:54 PM

Howdy,... most people are at work until about now (4:50 Pacific time) and most posting does not begin until after 5pm. Plus,.. I can see where more exciting info would be shared between the different people from different forums that would otherwise have never read the posts from members that keep different snakes. I think it may have a geometric effect. And if it is so boring,.. why stay? There are other forums that are more busy (albeit full of garbage).

>>Oh, and what "plethora" of posts would we be sifting through? Today there have been exactly three new threads in the burm forum, three in the retic forum and zero in the anaconda forum, for a whopping total of six threads. I know there are some slow readers out there, but really!
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

mrci Jul 15, 2003 06:59 PM

Yeah, I know. I was agreeing with the proposal in saying that there isn't enough traffic to justify so many forums. Contrary to the terdball who'd probably want posts segregated by locality and scale count.

BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 07:02 PM

I know, I realized that after I posted. You'll see a retraction post soon after that.
As far as terdball,.. I think that might be more of a "disagree with anything Brian says", type thing. That's what I'm picking up from him/her.

>>Yeah, I know. I was agreeing with the proposal in saying that there isn't enough traffic to justify so many forums. Contrary to the terdball who'd probably want posts segregated by locality and scale count.
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 06:59 PM

>>Howdy,... most people are at work until about now (4:50 Pacific time) and most posting does not begin until after 5pm. Plus,.. I can see where more exciting info would be shared between the different people from different forums that would otherwise have never read the posts from members that keep different snakes. I think it may have a geometric effect. And if it is so boring,.. why stay? There are other forums that are more busy (albeit full of garbage).
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>>>>Oh, and what "plethora" of posts would we be sifting through? Today there have been exactly three new threads in the burm forum, three in the retic forum and zero in the anaconda forum, for a whopping total of six threads. I know there are some slow readers out there, but really!
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>>It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

Rottenweiler9 Jul 15, 2003 11:37 AM

Some people just dont see what we are trying to accomplish

BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 01:17 PM

I agree with both of you too. But we don't need to put them down for having an opinion that opposes ours. Maybe they DO see what we are trying to accomplish and STILL disagree. And as members that is their right. That's what a vote is all about. Their votes count too. Heck, for all we know 7 more people can come out of the woodwork and oppose the idea and the vote can be majority Nay. I hope not, but one never knows, you know.

>>Some people just dont see what we are trying to accomplish
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

Tenor Goddess Jul 15, 2003 10:26 AM

I agree with Brian, Robert and everyone..this is a great idea since most of us involved with the large boids go back and forth between so many forums that are half dead as it is. If we put them together in one general forum, it would make it easier to communicate on the amazing giants.

Just my $0.02,

Amanda Rose
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Amanda's Menagerie
Bringing Animals, People and Education Together Under One Roof.
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BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 01:11 PM

Yes, it does make a lot of sense, doesn't it. Hey, could you please put your vote down below in the poll thread? That way it will be visible. Thanks Amanda. And don't worry, I am going to email you soon and answer all those issues, questions and ideas that you emailed about. There are just so many . But I will get to it. Just for your peace of mind though, in the mean time I will say that many of those ideas are pretty good ones.

>>I agree with Brian, Robert and everyone..this is a great idea since most of us involved with the large boids go back and forth between so many forums that are half dead as it is. If we put them together in one general forum, it would make it easier to communicate on the amazing giants.
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>>Just my $0.02,
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>>Amanda Rose
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>>Amanda Rose
>>Amanda's Menagerie
>>Bringing Animals, People and Education Together Under One Roof.
>>amandas_menagerie.tripod.com
>>My Email
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

Carmichael Jul 15, 2003 06:31 PM

Having been contributing to this forum for quite a few years, I would like to see burms, african rocks and 'condas lumped under the same forum (for the very reasons that Brian stated). The boa forum is pretty active so they should be on their own. The terd guy (sorry, don't know your name) made some valid points...I get frustrated when great threads get buried by post after post of pictures, other questions, etc.(not that these are bad, its just frustrating because most people won't scroll down during a good discussion).

Rob Carmichael, Director/Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
City of Lake Forest Parks & Recreation

BrianSmith Jul 15, 2003 07:17 PM

Hey Rob, would you mind posting your "yea" vote down in the poll thread? I want the vote to show so maybe kingsnake will be more inclined to make this happen. Especially with votes from members of your stature. To me, this would be a dream forum and I would love to see it come to fruition. By the way,... I'm sure you meant to add retics to your list here, right?

"the terd guy",.. lmao,. that cracks me up. Yes, I too despise threads that are often pointless and busy with drivel and senseless crap,.. but if you think about it Rob,.. most giant constrictors are not kept by children. And the forums that have the rivers of vacuous posts are mostly those frequented by children or young herpers. I think this giant constrictor forum would MOSTLY be frequented by older and more serious herp keepers. Just a point to ponder.

>>Having been contributing to this forum for quite a few years, I would like to see burms, african rocks and 'condas lumped under the same forum (for the very reasons that Brian stated). The boa forum is pretty active so they should be on their own. The terd guy (sorry, don't know your name) made some valid points...I get frustrated when great threads get buried by post after post of pictures, other questions, etc.(not that these are bad, its just frustrating because most people won't scroll down during a good discussion).
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>>Rob Carmichael, Director/Curator
>>The Wildlife Discovery Center
>>City of Lake Forest Parks & Recreation
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It isn't "Ideas" that fail or succeed,... it is the "Systems" which are instilled to launch and sustain the idea that either fail or succeed.>[Me.]

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