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Filters..

Doug89 Jul 03, 2005 08:12 PM

2 Questions...

1.) Are they worth buying? If so what ones?

I was definitely thinking about getting a polarizer for water shots of fish but most likely for taking pictures of animals behind glass at zoos and such.

2.) Do you need to adjust settings with a filter on?

I was looking at them online and they said stuff like increases this and decreses that and effects this... etc.

Thanks Guys ofr all your help!

PS-Just finished shooting a roll, mostly some flower macros (just to try it out) also some insect and a couple turtle shots. Cant wait to get em developed! Thanks again!
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-Doug Daly

"Aren't you two a little old to be drinking illegally?"

0.1.0 Leucistic Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe Obsoleta lindheimerii)

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mdk Jul 04, 2005 01:09 AM

Im not an expert but here are some of my thoughts...

Polarizers are great for outside shots.... increasing the intensity of the sky/clouds.... I use them for that a lot...

I also started out w/the intent to use them to shoot through glass .... but found they didnt really help.... something about exact alignment of the filter w/the glass/light reflection angles (feel free to either correct me or better explain it) but net net.... it wasnt helping me.....

I have two methods that work well, depending on the situation..... the best method is shoot the flash within the cage while keeping the camera behind the glass (not a good idea for fish/aquariums) but for my snakes, frogs, etc.... It is by far the best way..... when that is not an option, I use a rubber lens ring, and push right up against the glass, that way, the flash doesnt affect the area of the glass that I am shooting thru..... I also find that you can typically tell when you are getting a bad reflection (especially with a digital camera) so, I use a off camera cord to hold my flash and work the angles to I find one that is working.... (almost always find a way to get the shot that way)... BTW.... I never use the on camera built in flash.... that is usually trouble.....

MDK

The shot below was thru glass, w/handheld flash...and oh, btw.... photoshop at the end to clean up is always a help.....

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mdk Jul 04, 2005 01:20 AM

To answer your exact questions...... yes, buy them but for the right reasons, and the more you spend, the better the optics (which typically equates to better images)... so.... buy as good a filter as you can comfortably afford.... I have several, for different lenses.... the first one I bought I paid a lot for it.... almost $200 (if I rememnber correctly) it worked great, the second, I went for the cheaper one about $60s and I could tell after a few days, that I made a mistake... and should have spent the money on the better one.......

Yes polarizers require adjustment... you basically turn the filter to you get the most pleasing impact.... outside, you can visibly see the sky and clouds darken/intensify as you spin it..... w/flash, its harder.... my eye/hand coordination is good, but not that good *

MDK

The dreaded thru the glass reflection

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chrish Jul 04, 2005 01:23 PM

>>1.) Are they worth buying? If so what ones?

I have a polarizer, but use it sparingly at best. They are expensive, particularly for circular polarizers which AF cameras require.

When you need one, they are great to have but generally only for increasing sky contrast or shooting through water. For shooting through glass, it is easier to move the flash to another angle and get the lens as close as possible to reduce the chance of reflections.

Here are some pictures from the San Antonio Zoo taken through the glass with the flash held off to the side -


Be aware that the filters come in different thread sizes, so if you have a series of lenses with different filter rings sizes, you will have to have filters for all of them.

Some people swear by UV filters to protect lenses. I have always had a difficult time putting a $10 piece of glass over a $500 lens and expecting sharp pictures.

The only other filter I've ever wanted is a graduated neutral density filter, but they are also expensive, and I would have to own 3 or 4 of them to fit all my lenses.

>>2.) Do you need to adjust settings with a filter on?

The tricky think about polarizers is that the amount of light loss is dependent on the position of the filter ring at the time. So you can't just say "add two stops when this filter is on".
Fortunately, since your camera has a TTL meter, it will read the exposure correctly regardless of the filter on the camera.

>>PS-Just finished shooting a roll, mostly some flower macros (just to try it out) also some insect and a couple turtle shots.

If you want to improve your photography, make sure you are your own harshest critic. Don't just say "I like/dislike this shot". Figure out exactly what is good/bad and what you will have to do to change that in the future.

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Doug89 Jul 04, 2005 01:56 PM

THanks guys. One question for you Chris. Do you take pictures in the zoo with a tripod. If so do you just carry it in with you and setup where you want to take pictures or does the zoo let you in before other people or after it closes or something like that. Just wondering because im planning to go to the zoo in a few weeks and wanted to get some nice herp shots while i was there. Thanks!
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-Doug Daly

"Aren't you two a little old to be drinking illegally?"

0.1.0 Leucistic Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe Obsoleta lindheimerii)

chrish Jul 04, 2005 03:48 PM

Do you take pictures in the zoo with a tripod. If so do you just carry it in with you and setup where you want to take pictures or does the zoo let you in before other people or after it closes or something like that.

I just go on a weekday and go early so that there are not as many people there. You have to be considerate of other zoo patrons and then there usually isn't a problem.

Many zoos have rules about tripods, but I have found if you are considerate, they usually don't have a problem. I wouldn't try it on a busy weekend or public holiday.
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Doug89 Jul 04, 2005 01:58 PM

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-Doug Daly

"Aren't you two a little old to be drinking illegally?"

0.1.0 Leucistic Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe Obsoleta lindheimerii)

ig_daddy Jul 07, 2005 07:27 PM

I recommend 2 filters, for every camera. A 1A skylight filter to stay on the front of the lens as protection against the lens hitting a sharp object, especially if you cannot remove the lens. The 1A will every so slighly warm up pictures. The second is a circular polarizer. No extra settings will be needed on the camera. Be aware that the polarizer will block 50% of the light, so your camera will slow down the shutter.
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Doug89 Jul 08, 2005 01:34 PM

Ive got both now. And a UV Haze filter or something like that. What does that do?
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-Doug Daly

"Aren't you two a little old to be drinking illegally?"

0.1.0 Leucistic Texas Rat Snake (Elaphe Obsoleta lindheimerii)

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