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i currently keep tigerleg monkey and redeye tree frogs together.since they are about the same size and require the same care,and are from the same general area,i have kept them together successfully for over two years.im thinking about making a very large vivarium and adding one phylomedusa bicolor(giant monkey tree frog)to the mix.im not worried about the care because there will be more than enough room and they are also from the same area,but im a bit worried about their size.they are quite a bit larger than the 2 species i am currently keeping.does anyone know for a fact that phylomedusa bicolors can be canabalistic?i know many people on these forums dont believe in mixing species,but i have been very successful so far and i dont feel as strong as many about the "one animal per enclosure rule".i think that if you do your reasearch,know the animals needs,quarentine,and carefully monitor the situation,many animals can be mixed without a problem.anyway what im asking is please dont respond telling me not to mix species.i have a very clear question.does anyone have experience with bicolors? and do you know for a fact that they eat smaller frogs?i know someone out there will not be able to resist giving generic advise but really,all i wanna hear is experience pertaining to bicolors.oh yea,i currently have access to a very large supply of wild caught grasshoppers and other wild caught insects.what do you guys think about freezing them for winter and feeding them dead in one of those vibrating food dishes.do they work? id love to save some of these guys for winter.any experience freezing insects or with those vibrating things would be great.i really dont even know if you can freeze insects and i have no experience feeding dead insects to my frogs.

I won't comment on your P. tomopterna/A. callidryas mix, as I'm not in favor of it for various reasons.

As for the bicolor. I keep them and I could see them eating a smaller frog easily. I personally don't feed mine pinkies, but I've known some that have and a pinkie is about 1" long (atleast form my experience working at a pet store) and a juvi/sub adult P. tomopterna or A. callidryas is that size as well. Also take into consideration a rule that some have for feeding frogs: Don't feed the frog an object larger than the width of the frog's mouth. Bicolor have very large heads and in turn, large mouths, so they could easily have a tiger-legged/red eyed snack. I say pass on the bicolor unless you'd like to set it up in another tank by itself. That seems to be the only reason I can find for people mixing species anyways, they don't have the space, don't want to set up another tank, etc. so they jsut dump multiple species together.

Not sure about the grasshoppers and freezing. Ampgibians hunt based on movement, not sure if the vibrating thing would scare thme or not. You could always get a pair of tongs and just wiggle the grasshopper for them. Of course, you'd have to do that at night.
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Derek Benson
Tropical Treasures
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