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This little guy, like all mussuranas, didn't feel like posing so he's half on the carpet, half on the leaf.

A little nicer pose from an adult.

Forced belly shot, complete with recycle bin in the background. I guess I've got a while before I go pro with my pictures.

Doug T
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....whoever came up w/ Boiruna?
Clelia is the appropriate genera.
My intel is that someone has a boatload of em....too

I sure miss the red ventral...pity they dont keep it...

I just follow the instructions of you scientific types.

Honestly, in the case of this species, the common name "Mussurana" is what they have been called for hundreds... maybe thousands of years by the locals. As far as I know, neither Clelia or Boiruna has any historical connection to the species and has more to do with giving a taxonomist some warm fuzzies . I say some respect is due to the locals and a name like Mussurana ssp. would make more sense.

Then again, I just keep them as pets, so names like "Charlie" and "Liz" are just fine too.

Doug T

>>....whoever came up w/ Boiruna?
>>Clelia is the appropriate genera.
>>My intel is that someone has a boatload of em....too
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>>I sure miss the red ventral...pity they dont keep it...

You got any pics of the babies with their rings still?

Little wannabe ringneck snakes lol.

Mike
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This is about as good as I can do.

Doug T
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That's awesome. How big are they at hatching and what do you usually get them started on?

Mike
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The etymology of the genus name "Boiruna" was furnished by Brazilian biologist Hussam Zaher in the 1990's. It specifically comes from the indigenous Tupi-Guarini language in reference to the ophiophagous or snake-eating habits of these black snakes {Mboi+r+u (=which eat snakes) + una (=black)}. Zaher seperated two species (B. maculata and B. sertaneja) from the rest of the snakes that compose the Clelia genus due to morphological character traits.

....& to heck w/ Hans

Thnx for dropping in Swiss, do you have any idea where the term Mussurana & Clelia originate?

I have heard of Italian women named Clelia!

I have a beauty....see below...but interestingly, (w/ a sample size of 1....) it appears to be like a kingsnake in that as it matures, it appears to prefer rodents over ophidian prey....

...heres part of my ? answered....

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=186&q=http://italian.about.com/library/name/blname_clelia.htm&e=7370

Italian Baby Names

Clelia

English translation/equivalent: Clelia

Origin: Derived from the Latin Cloelia, associated with the root of the verb cluere "to have reknown, fame," and the name therefore means "illustrious, famous."

Name Day/Onomastico: September 3—in honor of the maiden Clelia, young Roman taken as hostage by the Etruscan invader Lars Porsenna, but who managed to escape and return to Rome by swimming the Tiber.

Clelia is thought to originate from the Greek "kloios" which means "collar" (in possible reference to the nuchal or neck band found in juveniles of this genus).

Mussurana possibly comes from the indigenous Guarani (according to Doug T) meaning "will be eel". I suspect this could be the origin, however, I have found no references to confirm this.

swiss

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