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FR, thanks for being here...

mexicanamak Jul 07, 2005 06:06 PM

...and being so willing and diligent in sharing your experience and thought provoking insight. I am certainly not alone in appreciating the valuable information you come here to offer. Your ideas and approaches to the captive care of kingsnakes are what most of us search for and rarely find. The fact that you present your information in a generalized manner, no carved-in-stone recipe, in an effort to provide simple and easily understandable knowledge for the inexperienced is very respectable and it helps tremendously.

The diligence... you brush off the attitudes, challenging confrontational replies and the "my way is the only way and I'm gonna argue regardless" responses that it seems you expected... and keep coming back with more helpful information because you know our community here really needs it. I would love to see more like you find the time and the nerve to jump in here and toss ideas into the mix.

No perfect captive care system exists even though some seem to think they have it, however what you share here certainly helps us design what can be the most "perfect" system each individual is capable of with what we have to work with. One of the most interesting aspects of keeping and breeding kingsnakes for me is the fact that my mind, eyes and ears will always be wide open for suggestion and possible better ways to do what we do, and I know I am not alone.

Thanks for stickin' around Frank.

Mike

Replies (12)

clutch Jul 07, 2005 06:48 PM

I would second that! He has definetly caused me to think a bit.
Jim

JETZEN Jul 07, 2005 08:09 PM

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bluerosy Jul 07, 2005 11:05 PM

showed up.

Lot more thought provoking posts and its something that any herper at any level can undertand and use.

Thanks FR. We can only hope you will stay for a while longer!!!

thomas davis Jul 07, 2005 11:12 PM

as far as thinkin goes thanks FR,,,,,,,thomas davis

markg Jul 07, 2005 11:50 PM

>>...and being so willing and diligent in sharing your experience and thought provoking insight. I am certainly not alone in appreciating the valuable information you come here to offer. Your ideas and approaches to the captive care of kingsnakes are what most of us search for and rarely find. The fact that you present your information in a generalized manner, no carved-in-stone recipe, in an effort to provide simple and easily understandable knowledge for the inexperienced is very respectable and it helps tremendously.
>>
>>The diligence... you brush off the attitudes, challenging confrontational replies and the "my way is the only way and I'm gonna argue regardless" responses that it seems you expected... and keep coming back with more helpful information because you know our community here really needs it. I would love to see more like you find the time and the nerve to jump in here and toss ideas into the mix.
>>
>>No perfect captive care system exists even though some seem to think they have it, however what you share here certainly helps us design what can be the most "perfect" system each individual is capable of with what we have to work with. One of the most interesting aspects of keeping and breeding kingsnakes for me is the fact that my mind, eyes and ears will always be wide open for suggestion and possible better ways to do what we do, and I know I am not alone.
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>>Thanks for stickin' around Frank.
>>
>>Mike

FR Jul 08, 2005 01:15 AM

I am glad your having fun, and I do appreicate your kind words, I am totally embarrassed. All I can say is, thank you, Frank Retes

HKM Jul 08, 2005 11:30 AM

Hey you big fathead.... I hope you don't listen to all of these guys or your head will explode, then Virginia will call 911 and you know what happens then right??????? hmmmmmm We are always just down the street amigo..... heh heh heh.... just a phone call away!

FR Jul 08, 2005 12:43 PM

Dang it, why did you say that, now all I can think of is, really bad music and my head exploding(mars attacks) Thanks Bud, FR

bigwhitefeet Jul 09, 2005 11:35 PM

hahah! how ya doing frank? i havent seen you since we went to texas! trust me, you didnt miss much. everyone out on the roads caught at least one alterna but us. lol

i heard about your milk-snake thay-calking's on the hybrid forum.. im excited to see how those turn out. What other eggs you got cooking this year? im sure it would be easier (and quicker) for me to just come over, which leads me to my next point. we should go road hunting man! give us a call. I heard about you and my dad with the pima leaf-nose... you punks!! lol

BTW- you are MORE then welcome to one or a pair of my big hill alterna eggs? let me know.

-james

FR Jul 10, 2005 11:51 AM

Welcome back James, I heard you trip was not too much fun. Yea, i accidently did a hybrid, and it was an accident really, sort of. I was actually feeding the thary's to the Cal king and he bred her instead. But all is well, on her second clutch I did feed her to another Cal king and he ate her, hahahahahahahahahaha As your dad said, I got revenge and eggs, hahahahahahahahahaha.

I do not have too many clutches as that dang tharyi killed my males. So three females did not get bred, but I finally borrowed a male from Bill and it bred one on her second clutch. So, I will have some Tharys and some Cals, and some of both, yuck or not, we will see.

Yea, the dog days of hell are almost over, so road hunting and such is coming back into the picture. Gas is getting so expensive, I was thinking of putting a sail on my bike, hahahahahahahaha. During the rainy season, I could end up in China or somewhere. Later James, FR

bigwhitefeet Jul 11, 2005 07:27 PM

hahah. you might just end up in china is right. i wouldnt be surprised.

but yea.. trip wasn't so great, but came home to alterna eggs, so it all works out in the end. there was a bear hanging out by the house i was at, it would come up at night and steal bird feeders, but as soon as i got there we saw it three times with a smaller bear, in the middle of the day right in the yard stealing the bird food. it was pretty cool. plus your usual turkey's, deer, and woodchucks. nothing else except for those.. "bird" things that my old man is always raving about. hahahah

yea, i'd love to go road hunting after the first big rain.
we also need to go down south and get some hognose?
james

antelope Jul 08, 2005 09:50 PM

Awww, Frank, we love to be challenged. Glad you take the time to share the wealth. Thanks.
Todd Hughes

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