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the search for spotted salamanders

ginevive May 17, 2003 01:43 PM

I cannot find any of these guys, despite seeing their egg sacs all over in a bunch of pools by our house. It's almost hard to believe they were there. Saw 3 fat pinkish spring salamanders, 10 or more duskies and a potential mole salamander, but no spotteds. The eggs are not hatched yet. I saw a bunch of larval spotteds last august, but the pool they were in is devoid of anything but an egg sac. Has anyone succesfully dug and found spotteds (like in the leaves at the base of a pine tree?) I did and found nothing but a bunch of beatles and worms. I don't want to catch them, I just want a few photos. The search goes on...
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*~Ginevive~*

Replies (4)

PHWyvern May 17, 2003 06:53 PM

>>I cannot find any of these guys, despite seeing their egg sacs all over in a bunch of pools by our house. It's almost hard to believe they were there. Saw 3 fat pinkish spring salamanders, 10 or more duskies and a potential mole salamander, but no spotteds. The eggs are not hatched yet. I saw a bunch of larval spotteds last august, but the pool they were in is devoid of anything but an egg sac. Has anyone succesfully dug and found spotteds (like in the leaves at the base of a pine tree?) I did and found nothing but a bunch of beatles and worms. I don't want to catch them, I just want a few photos. The search goes on...
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>>*~Ginevive~*

I too have not been able to see them in the wild other than for the eggs. Of course this is murphy's law you know. Everyone who is freaked out or could care less about spotted salamanders are the ones most likely to come upon them than those actively seeking them out.

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Wyvern

Sonya May 17, 2003 08:39 PM

>>I cannot find any of these guys, despite seeing their egg sacs all over in a bunch of pools by our house. It's almost hard to believe they were there. Saw 3 fat pinkish spring salamanders, 10 or more duskies and a potential mole salamander, but no spotteds. The eggs are not hatched yet. I saw a bunch of larval spotteds last august, but the pool they were in is devoid of anything but an egg sac. Has anyone succesfully dug and found spotteds (like in the leaves at the base of a pine tree?) I did and found nothing but a bunch of beatles and worms. I don't want to catch them, I just want a few photos. The search goes on...
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>>*~Ginevive~*

Well, I know in upstate NY they were enmasse migrating about a month ago. Honestly by now they are dispersed into the woods and 'hidden' for the summer I would think. Finding one won't be easy til next spring. I have seen several for sale for $10-20 around the internet.
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Sonya

haddachoose1 May 18, 2003 11:42 AM

My daughters and I found five blue spotted salamanders yesterday. They were all in very moist rotting logs on the forest floor, near a pond. We released them all. We also caught and released three eastern garter snakes. A pretty darn good day!

rick gordon May 19, 2003 12:46 PM

Generally, if you find eggs then your too late. Mole salamanders are not easy to find outside of there breeding season. For Spotted salamanders you want to look for them the first few week in spring, they usually don't waste any time. Also, you can usually find Marble salamander in the same area that you find the spotted salamanders eggs in the first few weeks of winter. I use the 50-55 degree rule, when the temps first get above 50-55 look for spring breeders and when they first get down to 50-55 look for winter breeders.

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