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Haha you wish my friends............

but how bout this........
An old man goes to the Wizard to ask him if he can remove a curse he has been living with for the last 40 years.

The Wizard says, "Maybe, but you will have to tell me the exact words that were used to put the curse on you."

The old man says without hesitation, "I now pronounce you man and wife.".........
im wasted.......
goin to the bars.......
happy herpin ..............drunkin vicious

There are Chahua and crested hybrids out there.

NP...
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-Randy May
www.neoscales.com
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If you are talking about the Chahua and Crested mix, it can happen and theres proof. A member for Repashy's forum own one of these hybrids. If you would like, send me a PM and I can link you to the page where he displayed his gecko.

Randy,
To assert that a hybrid within the same family is impossible is unfounded, I am curious to what experiments you have conducted to come to these concrete conclusions? Just because no one has done it, doesn't make it impossible only improbable and I don't even think it is all that unlikely. So what I'm getting at is, what is your logic behind this assumption?
-Eli

Eli,

Just FYI, Rhacodactylus is a genus, not a family. Rhacodactylus belong to the subfamily Diplodactylinae...which is part of the Gekkonidae family.

Regarding the topic at hand, there have been a number of experienced gecko breeders who have been trying to get an auriculatus x ciliatus hybrid for years and as of now, no one has been able to do it. In that same time, there have been numerous chahoua x ciliatus hybrids produced. Is it impossible? No...nothing is impossible, but considering there are a lot more auriculatus in captivity than there are chahoua, one would have to assume that it probably would have been done by now if it were possible.

-Anthony

>>Randy,
>>To assert that a hybrid within the same family is impossible is unfounded, I am curious to what experiments you have conducted to come to these concrete conclusions? Just because no one has done it, doesn't make it impossible only improbable and I don't even think it is all that unlikely. So what I'm getting at is, what is your logic behind this assumption?
>>-Eli
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

Ahhh see there's a response I was looking for. Correct me that's fine, I was really tired when I wrote the post, but handle a legitimate question with a legitimate answer. I mean if I'm a nobody or whatever, why get defensive, why even care.
-Eli

Eli,

You asked what the logic was behind that assumption and I answered the question. Nothing defensive about that.

-Anthony

>>Ahhh see there's a response I was looking for. Correct me that's fine, I was really tired when I wrote the post, but handle a legitimate question with a legitimate answer. I mean if I'm a nobody or whatever, why get defensive, why even care.
>>-Eli
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

animalia chordata squamata gekkonidae diplodactylinae Rhacodactylus *species*

i belive thats how it goes, and no i didnt go look it up.

also, i dont think he said anything about rhacodactylus being a family, and technically, Chahoua X Ciliatus is a cross within a family, also happens to be within a genus.

let me know if i left anything out.

Andrew Ellis

That's good and all, Andrew. You apparently missed this...

"To assert that a hybrid within the same family is impossible is unfounded"

Leopard Geckos and Crested Geckos are in the same family...would it be unfounded to assume that cross is impossible?
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

wow, a response from anthony, thats something i havnt gotten in about 3 months....

the words "to assert that a hybrid in the same family.. etc etc"
arent the same as "rhacodactylus is a family", or "the family of rhacodactylus" which is what i thought u were implying he said. because rhac's are in the same family, so as i said, it would be a hybrid in the same family, not as specific, or correct to say a hybrid in same genus, but still...

thats all i was getting at.

Andrew Ellis

a cross between leo's and crested's would be improbable to the point of being impossible, but thats not what we were discussing.

Andrew

np

i am a big fan of the hybrids, i almost always think they end up looking cool. as it has been discussed it has become pretty apparent that it is improbable that this could happen, but if it could i would be right in line with the rest to get ahold of one, or do it myself. who knows, maybe we will get lucky one day and it will work out, i doubt it from the experiences related, but it would be cool.

anyone know what other rhac hybrids have occured?

has chahoua x ciliatus been the only one?

what about chahoua x auriculatus?

i think anthony once told me that sarisonorum has not been crossed with anything. still the case?

lets hear some more about the hybrids.

post em guys, plz! im always ready to see some more photos of those cool crosses.

and randy, we know u are the undisputed champ of Rhacodactylus photography, when your ciliatus x chahoua babies hatch, shoot some of those shots our way, plz plz.

Andrew Ellis