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Anyone here check out the Ball Python forum? These new morphs this year are just too much. I mean we have Albino Black Headed pythons. There are the Albino Motley boas, the Scoria proved genetic, Patternless Harlequins.

But then in a 24hr. period on the BP forum there is the QUEEN BEE (Lesser Platinum Pastel Spider), and BANANA CLOWNS, and BANANA PASTELS.

But a couple of weeks ago there were Pastel Piebalds and Pastel Caramel Albinos.

You're right, it's amazing to watch every new morph and combination. I find they're not quite as pretty when grown as they are when hatchlings, it seems. Also, intriguing to follow the prices. I'm waiting for the bubble to burst, then maybe I'll have a pied something in my collection.

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

My cousin and I were talking yesterday about some of the cool looking hybrid colubrids. He called me back later and said to look at the Banana Clown. That was outrageous!

Is that the first combination made with Clowns?

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

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I didn't see that one (the first) but did see Dan Sutherland's yesterday.

That the Ball pythons have so much genetic diversity? It blows my mind! I wonder if boas will ever even get close to ALL the different morphs as they are Ball morphs ? !
I was told, that you could breed a spider Ball to a normal & get 50% spiders?!
To bad that's not true for some of the boa morphs! The Ball "market" is incredible !
Dave
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Dave @ East TN Reptiles

Well, it is possible that Ball Pythons have more chromosomes than Boas, leading to more possibilities for mutations. Also, it has been seen, but not proven, that some Ball Python morphs can be polygenic.

The Spider mutation is dominant so breeding a Heterozygous Spider (A Spider with one allele for the gene) to a normal yields 50% spiders. There are Spiders in both Heterozygous and Homozygous form. A Homozygous Spider to a normal gives all Heterozygous Spiders. Remember Heterozygous only means that the animal has one allele since the trait is dominant over the wild type Hets are Visually different from normals. Also, since the trait is not co-dominant both Homozygous and Heterozygous look the same. I don't know if anyone has bothered to produce Homozygous Spiders.
The same type of inheritance exists in Hypomelanistic Boas.

Hope this makes sense.

Your serpentarly intelligent.
Dave : )
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Dave @ East TN Reptiles

boas are often collect as threy are found mean that morphs that are bright colored dont live as long in the wild where ball eggs are round up by the thousands then hatched and the morphs are pulled out and sent to the us. i got a couple of wc ball morphs this year out of a thousand lot a friend had it was crasy to see that many snakes in one room.