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GTP regurgitate

itbuggy Jul 17, 2005 08:39 PM

my little yearling regurgitate for the last 2 feeding, he was doing very well in the past.
I've been feeding him with suitable size of fuzzy and i believe the temp and RH is just right (because other pythons's feeding is ok)

what you guy think ?is it due to enteritis?
thx

Replies (14)

MegF Jul 17, 2005 10:52 PM

How long are you waiting between feedings? For regurge, if it's like other types of snakes, I wait at least 10 days before trying to feed again, and I usually go down in size for2-3 feedings before going back up to the size I started. I'm not completely certain that you would handle regurges on GTP the same as other snakes, but I would assume that it would be similar as their eating habits are alike. Hopefully, more experienced GTP folks will let me know if my answer is correct. I'm still new to this type of snake, but I have fortunately only experienced it once with my other ones.
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0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
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itbuggy Jul 17, 2005 11:14 PM

I've waited a 6 day before feeding him again and i reduced the size by ~40%...i will not feed him again for another week or more.
finger crossed

dack77 Jul 17, 2005 11:53 PM

Is this snake a farmed hatchling or an import? If it is I would get a fecal done to see if there are any parasites. More than likely this is the case. A meal too big could definitely cause it but i bet its going to be parasites.
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Mike Bair
Chondro Dreams

itbuggy Jul 18, 2005 12:46 AM

it's a import hatchling.i think i will get a vet to have a parasite test.

dack77 Jul 18, 2005 04:14 PM

Hopefully you can get the problem figured out and get the little one eating. I always hate to hear about snakes not making it. If its not parasites, post again and Im sure me and others will be glad to help. Good Luck!
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Mike Bair
Chondro Dreams

MegF Jul 18, 2005 07:20 PM

Mike,
If it's not parasites, would you wait and then feed smaller amounts, or do you do something different for GT's? I've only had a single regurge experience with one of my corns, and never have had one since. So far my new kid has eaten well and is doing fine, but I'd like to know for future reference. I couldn't find anything in Greg's book on it.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

dack77 Jul 19, 2005 12:08 AM

You would definitely want to feed smaller food sizes once you figure out the problem. You dont want to over stress the snake by making it try and digest a huge meal. Start em out small and then get back to the appropriate sized meal after several meals. Im thinking if its not parasites its going to be husbandry issues. Possibly not enough heat....I would be suprised if its not some type of internal parasite.
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Mike Bair
Chondro Dreams

ravensgait Jul 19, 2005 12:25 AM

If it has been eating without problem I'd look at husbandry first but it sure wont hurt to have a fecal done.

Post your temps and humidity and what your keeping it in. Also give it more than 10 days before feeding again. Heck it might have been just a bad mouse and then feeding again before it's system settled down may have caused the second regurge. Wait at least 2 weeks or longer before feeding again and give it a small meal. Giving as much info as you can will sure help. Randy

>>my little yearling regurgitate for the last 2 feeding, he was doing very well in the past.
>>I've been feeding him with suitable size of fuzzy and i believe the temp and RH is just right (because other pythons's feeding is ok)
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>>what you guy think ?is it due to enteritis?
>>thx
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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

itbuggy Jul 19, 2005 02:45 AM

the temp. around 85 - 88 and drop a few during night time and the RH is keeping around 70-80%. Mine is keeping in a 2 fts plastic cage.

ravensgait Jul 19, 2005 12:26 PM

Sounds about right is there one side that is cooler? Randy

>>the temp. around 85 - 88 and drop a few during night time and the RH is keeping around 70-80%. Mine is keeping in a 2 fts plastic cage.
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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

itbuggy Jul 19, 2005 09:32 PM

well. temperature gradient may be not exist for my cage.

ravensgait Jul 19, 2005 11:13 PM

Well that could be part of the problem or the problem. If the temps to warm the mouse or whatever starts to decompose faster than they can digest it. Sometimes you see a swelling from gas before they regurgitate. I tend to keep my Chondros cooler than some do with a warm side of 84 to 86 and a cool side in the mid to upper 70s. That way they can decided where they need to perch for their comfort and digestive needs. Try setting it up with a cooler side to use and wait a few weeks before feeding again. Randy

>>well. temperature gradient may be not exist for my cage.
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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

itbuggy Jul 20, 2005 02:02 AM

thank you very much for your help..

MegF Jul 20, 2005 08:15 PM

My cage is a little small to have a decent temperature variance. I've been keeping it at 85-86 degrees under the heat lamp. The side opposite the heat lamp is pretty close to that too due to the size. I haven't had any problems yet though. When I move her into a larger viv, then I expect to be able to have a decent variance in temp. I was told that in the smaller sized plastic tubs that I'm keeping my yearling in, that those temps are alright.
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

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