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...nothing elaborate. I'm seeing "black" pastels and "cinnamon" pastels. Now, my question is: Are these the same morph just different breeders using different names? Or are they actually two distinctly different morphs?

For the most part they seem the same to me. Am I missing something?
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technically they are they same things....there are slight differences in each line that the breeders can tell the difference between the two...but they all produce an all black patternless snake...so who really cares what they are called....
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Brandon,

I feel they are basically the same morph. They both can produce pewters when bred to jungle pastels and the super form of each is a pattenless snake. From what I heard BHB produced a dark, patternless snake from a cinny x black pastel cross (Brian, please correct me if I'm wrong). However, there does seem to be a slight color and pattern difference between what people are calling a black pastel and a what they call a cinnamon pastel. From the limited number of crosses involving black pastels and cinny's it seems to me that the black pastel adds a richer color to the resulting offspring than does the cinny (Although I'm slightly biased towards the black pastel b'c that's what I'm working with... LOL).

I'm by no means an expert on either of these 2 lines. Just stating what I've heard and my own observations on the subject.

Hope this helps,
Tom

... I just wasn't 100% sure.

Thanks guys.
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Edited on July 18, 2005 at 17:49:48 by phwyvern.