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Can anyone help ID this ratsnake?

deanUK Jul 19, 2005 12:47 PM

its also got some white flickers on the saddles?any ideas??? thanks

Replies (21)

deanUK Jul 19, 2005 12:51 PM

help!

phiber_optikx Jul 19, 2005 01:32 PM

It looks like a picture of a bairds and a corn to me... but I'm sure it's not! Tell me what it is whenever you find out because I HAVE to get one!
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Redtail "Kilo"
1.0 Ball Python "Road Hog"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches" (Didn't name her!)

Kevin Saunders Jul 19, 2005 02:13 PM

Looks like a corn to me. What's the story behind it?

Elaphefan Jul 19, 2005 03:28 PM

My guess is that this snake is a hypomelanistic Miami Phase Corn Snake.

Gargoyle420 Jul 19, 2005 02:15 PM

That silver is incredible looking...Paul

phiber_optikx Jul 19, 2005 02:26 PM

So is there a concensus that it IS a corn? because if so I want one! I have never seen that coloration in a corn! It would be awesome if we could mix that with Bluekings golden corn and have a silver base color with golden sadles! I would buy about 50
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Redtail "Kilo"
1.0 Ball Python "Road Hog"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches" (Didn't name her!)

kkierstead Jul 19, 2005 04:12 PM

What about the lack of checker board pattern on the belly that corn snakes have though?

Kim
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.2 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon

draybar Jul 19, 2005 05:34 PM

>>some have less patterning on their bellies then others.
That snake looks 100% corn to me.
I would say Miami phase or South Florida wild caught.
Definitel a beauty.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

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kkierstead Jul 19, 2005 05:58 PM

Sorry about misinforming people.

Kim
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0.1 radiated rat(100% het albino)
1.0 okeetee corn
1.2 ball python
0.1 red tail boa
0.0.1 chinese water dragon

Elaphefan Jul 19, 2005 09:08 PM

"What about the lack of checker board pattern on the belly that corn snakes have though? "

On my Corn, the checkering has to do mostly with the black skin pigment. Since this snake has very little black pigment, you are not seeing the classic checkerboard pattern.

antelope Jul 21, 2005 01:06 AM

The checkerboard missing is my thought, too.
Todd Hughes

Living_skies Jul 19, 2005 11:31 PM

I'd have to say corn as well but the colouring does look very similar to a Bairds X Corn that I have seen....lots of silver with orange/reddish saddles. The one I am compairing it to is just a hatchling though and the colours may end up different.

antelope Jul 21, 2005 01:10 AM

That spearpoint, but that silver! No checkerboard.... I'm stumped, but I've seen Zee's golden corn in person so could be all corn. GREAT LOOKING snake, that's for sure. Can i have it? LOL!
Todd Hughes

Gargoyle420 Jul 19, 2005 05:53 PM

Since you posted I have looked at your pick at least 30 times.I wanted to say Miami but the heavy straw color threw me off.Where did you purchase this corn?Your corn is incredible looking.I want one....Paul.

deanUK Jul 20, 2005 03:15 PM

@the moment there R no plan 2 breed the animal,it was handed 2 me @ work by the police just yesterday they found the little 1 on a common about 3miles from the shop(reptile1) but in my years of experince Ive no seen a rat or corn like it!thanks R UR views

dustyrhoads Jul 19, 2005 09:07 PM

Looks like a nice orange-saddled Miami phase corn.
DR

antelope Jul 21, 2005 01:03 AM

Wow! Looks impossible but bairdsXcorn? Man that is one great looking corn!
Todd Hughes

phiber_optikx Jul 21, 2005 01:26 PM

wow, what kind is that?
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Redtail "Kilo"
1.0 Ball Python "Road Hog"
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches" (Didn't name her!)

Shaky Jul 21, 2005 02:48 PM

a keys corn?

A bairdi X guttata did cross my mind, though.

Very small chance of finding out for sure with a corn-looking snake, though.
It sure is a nice one.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Elaphefan Jul 22, 2005 06:51 PM

Photos that I have seen of Black x Yellow show some striping in their pattern. This snake loos old enough that you would see some of this if it were crossed with a Bairds. I still think it a a hypo-melanistic Maimi Phase Corn.

Reasons:

Some, but very little black (argument for sayiny it is Hypo-melanistic)

Head pattern looks normal

Checkerd pattern missing from belly (caused by the lack of melanin)

Would like to see some photos of an adult Baird x Maimi Corn to see if you are right, and my guess is all wrong.

kisatchie Jul 23, 2005 10:02 PM

It sure looks like a silver phase rosy rat to me. I have seen similar, though not quite as strikingly silver ones as that. It is a beauty.
Jim

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