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Eastern hognose

Naja-naja Jul 22, 2005 11:55 AM

I have noticed that alot of you have baby eastern hogs hatching and I was wondering if any of y'all where going to sell them and if so will they be expensive or cheap since eastern hogs are very common.Also the funny thing is that they are so common that I can't find any in the wild if anyone could give me some advice on how to find them that would also be extremely helpful

Thanks for any help given

Brandon

Replies (18)

Snake_Master Jul 22, 2005 02:50 PM

There not common... and most are about 75- 120 the ones i have seen..

Naja-naja Jul 22, 2005 03:06 PM

>>There not common... and most are about 75- 120 the ones i have seen..

you say that they are not common but look at all the people finding them every weekend when they go herping. but then again that may be because they are in different places that may have more hogs than others. and I hear alot of people in my area saying they see them all the time but I never see them I have even been where the people say that they have seen them but no luck.

Brandon

venomden Jul 22, 2005 06:04 PM

It does have to do with the area your in. Where are you located Brandon? I have found as many as 6 in one day. I have a group of friends that have seen around 40 this year.

Micah

Naja-naja Jul 22, 2005 09:04 PM

>>It does have to do with the area your in. Where are you located Brandon? I have found as many as 6 in one day. I have a group of friends that have seen around 40 this year.

I am in Gloucester Co. VA.

Brandon

skycock Jul 26, 2005 08:41 AM

My best eastern hog day this year produced 6 for me. Only 2 were under tin, the other 4 were under or feet while walking through our sites. Some days they just move more than others-but in my experience, on the days you find one-you find them all. as for how common they are-it depends on your location and where you are looking. if you know you are in an area where they live-there are ways of finding them-it could mean alot of road cruising or it could mean placing out sheet after sheet of tin-but if they are there they are findable. if you need info on how to set stuff out and where to set it for hoggies shoot me an email at gamecockvaulter@yahoo.com and we can talk. later on
Trey

Colchicine Jul 24, 2005 12:08 PM

I disagree about how common they are. Not everybody who doesn't find them in the course of the weekend comes on here and reports it. So you may perceive that you are missing out when everybody else is catching them, when in fact information you base it upon is biased towards only the people who do find them. I would like to point out that I have met far more people in this area that claim they have either never seen a hognose, or the most common story is "we used to find them all the time on my father's farm, but I haven't seen one in 10 years or more". You can't expect too much out of a species that is dependent upon a decreasing and polluted food source!
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Naja-naja Jul 24, 2005 01:18 PM

Hey Kory,

I see what your saying about that because I have also heard that from some people.

Also I went down to that pond we went to today and some a$$whole tryed to call the cops because I was so called trespassing and he is the so called president of those houses and we got into a huge fight about me trespassing on HIS property but they just put the damn sign up saying that founders mill, hunters run, and any other people that dont live down those roads which is bull $#!%, my dad came down there and picked me my 2 cousins and my sister up and my sister sat on my moms lap while we made room and he goes " And your driving with a kid in the front is illegal and we where just making room in the Jeep. so now I can't go herping down there as that Jack a$$ says but you know me I am anyway. so just email me and we can finish talking about this.

Jim_H Jul 22, 2005 06:57 PM

Last year at the Daytona show, hatchlings were going for as little as $25. They tend to be the cheapest Heterodon.

Jim

Snake_Master Jul 22, 2005 09:19 PM

Not according to kingsnake classifieds there about 75-120 for hatchlings i see w. hogs for as cheap as 45.. and at shows nasicus is always the cheapest hog there is.. and southerns are really up there...

venomden Jul 23, 2005 12:19 AM

Well Brandon I cant help you much on that one havent ever hunted VA and from what ive heard its hard to find anything there. I have hunted the most Northern tip of NC and have found eastern hogs there around Hilton Head. The best way to find them is find a good sandy area and cruise dirt roads in the hottest part of the day they move during the day and like it hot.

Micah

swwit Jul 23, 2005 09:55 AM

From what I've seen they tend to be $25-$40 at shows.
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tom Jul 23, 2005 12:08 AM

Those easterns at Daytona from glades were just out of the egg and had never eaten, as was the case with most of the easterns at the show, and most of them were from wild caught parents. The four I bought croaked in the first week. Captive born and bread are worth the 75 to 125 that the hobbyist are asking for an established eater. Just my two cents.
Tom

Jim_H Jul 23, 2005 06:55 AM

They were not from Glades. Established eaters were $25 - $35 dollars at several tables. (there were some being sold out of the egg, but not from Glades) If you pay $75 for a hatcling eastern, IMHO you are getting ripped off.

swwit Jul 23, 2005 09:57 AM

Agreed.
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Steve W.

venomden Jul 23, 2005 04:13 PM

Glades was selling them stright from the egg last year because the bought every baby my friend took to the show and they gave 35 each for them.

tom Jul 23, 2005 11:09 PM

All I am trying to say is that anyone who puts the time, effort and care to raise up a pair of Easterns for 2 years, breed them, hatch babies and make sure they are eating and healthy before selling, certainly deserve to get paid for their effort. If you find hatchlings that have not eaten, then $75 is too much - yes!

What do you consider the phrase, being ripped off? IMO that is someone selling something that is not what he says it is. If I see a beautiful snake and I see quality and I have the money, I buy it. I may ask for a discount but I would not say you are ripping me off at the price you are asking for it.

Tom

venomden Jul 24, 2005 01:55 AM

I agree with you Tom baby hognose are a crap shoot. They can be doing great and then take a turn for the worst in a hurry. If you can find a nice fat healty CB hognose a year old or older they are for sure worth the 75 dollars. Then on the other side since they can be so hard to get going babies out of the egg arent worth more than 40 bucks to me. What I think is crazy is people trying to sale fresh WC hognose for over 100 dollars lets stop being greedy.

Micah

Steve_Craig Jul 24, 2005 10:26 AM

Tom, that's a beautiful Eastern. How old is that one in the picture? IS it Captive Bred? Some of these eastern hogs with the colors they develope are just stunning. Excellent photo.

Steve

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