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whats an albino chondro worth??

iceyesnteeth Jul 24, 2005 09:48 PM

if the people who own albino chondros right now decided to sell them,what could they get for them?

Replies (13)

MegF Jul 24, 2005 10:31 PM

I understand they're figuring on $50,000 or more! Waaaayyy outside my price range!

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

timrash Jul 24, 2005 10:45 PM

I think that sounds too low. I think I have seen 2 different 50% hets for sale and I swore they were asking $10k each. I like them but not as much as I like a Hummer.

Tim Rash
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Tim Rash
www.nocturnal-creations.com

MegF Jul 25, 2005 06:46 AM

Well, Greg was estimating $50-100,000 for an albine, so I think $10,000 for a guaranteed het for albino is cheap. Considering there's only 2 full albinos around at this point.
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

shhawke Jul 25, 2005 07:01 AM

their are more then 2...

Shiloh

>>Well, Greg was estimating $50-100,000 for an albine, so I think $10,000 for a guaranteed het for albino is cheap. Considering there's only 2 full albinos around at this point.
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>>1.0~amel corn~C.S.
>>1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
>>0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
>>0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
>>1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
>>3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)

timrash Jul 25, 2005 07:17 AM

The one's I saw for 10k each were not 100% het albino. They are 50% hets that means there is a chance they might carry the gene but it would take a long time to prove them out with their offspring. You would have to breed him to females and then breed his babies back to him and hope for the best. So your looking at least 3-4 years before you might know and could still end up with just normal babies or of course a couple albinos. It also depends if he will breed multiple females and if he wont your looking at even longer time you will need to breed him to his adult offspring.

Tim Rash
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Tim Rash
www.nocturnal-creations.com

greentreesnake Jul 25, 2005 08:46 AM

More than 2? There are purportedly some albinos in Europe, but to date nobody has seen a picture that I know of or have hard evidence that they exist.

Damon has his now mature male Floyd who is producing this year for the first time and Trooper has a new 05 albino out of one of the siblings to Floyds parents which was bred back to a daughter.

At this point I think the value of the albino chondro has to be considered priceless since I don't believe either snake would be offered for sale anytime soon!!

Tim is correct on the 50% possible hets, I know of a few that have been sold in the 10-12k range. 100% positive hets when available will probably be offered in the 25k range.

It will take a few more years before they become more readily available and my guess is that when the first albinos are produced that are released will start in the 50k price range.

It was love at first sight for me when I first saw pix of Damon's Floyd and I've been salivating at the chance to have a similar beauty in my own collection!!

iceyesnteeth Jul 25, 2005 09:42 AM

it is my understanding that damons albino came from a clutch that included one or two other albinos that died.so its safe to say,since more than one albino was born,that the parents are hets.im wondering if he ever pair up the parents that produced them again after that first clutch.wouldnt it be a good guess that if paired again another albino would be produced?is there a reason they were not paired again??or am i wrong that it doesnt mean there is a good chance at another albino being born.

iceyesnteeth Jul 25, 2005 09:49 AM

are you saying that if damon was to sell his snake tomorrow,all he could get is 50k??im not talking about the asking price of any albinos or hets that are created from that snake,im talking about the value of that actual snake,the only albino in existance.i know that at least one other albino has recently been born,but try and forget that.im trying to figure out how much richer damon became on that fatefull day when the first albino chondro was born.if he wanted to sell the baby that day,what could he have gotten for it when it was the one and only.any ideas?

fhuici Jul 25, 2005 03:29 PM

I really wouldn't pay that much for an Albino GTP. I mean, unless you are planning on morphing the heck out of them, why else would you want an albino GT? The beauty of these snake are there colors. Don't you guys agree? Well, that's just my opinion. What the heck do I know.

Frank

1.0 Jayapura Green Tree Python
1.0 Reduced Ball Python
1.0 Anery BOA
1.1 Suriname BOA
1.0 Albino Burmese
0.1 Pastel Columbian BOA

MegF Jul 25, 2005 07:12 PM

They still have color. Floyd is pretty much an orangish yellow. Quite pretty in the photos. When the first albino (Floyd) was born, Greg Maxwell estimated that the worth would be around $50-$100,000. That doesn't mean that someone wouldn't have offered more if the snake had been available for sale. No one knows how much they're worth until someone offers. Unfortunately, they're so rare right now, that no one will sell one if they had it. I doubt Trooper will part with his, especially if it turns out to be a female!

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

mrcat997 Jul 26, 2005 08:49 PM

i know the value of albinos and leucistics.it opens the door to all sorts of morphs and pibalds and stuff,but i do kinda agree about the colords being much nicer than the albinos,besides..there is only a slight color diffence between a 1500 dollar canary and a 50,000 albino.in other reptiles albinos are really cool and unique,but in an animal that is already availabe in yellow,it really is have to justify the huge value difference.now i would like to see a snow white leucistic chondro.i think that would be much nicer.i once read somewhere that leucistics are a lot more common than albinos.its kinda strange that a few albinos were born before even one leucistic.that is unless what i heard was wrong

Brandon Osborne Jul 26, 2005 11:14 PM

The color of Floyd is not even close to a "Canary". Floyd is a briliant golden orange chondro, but both are beautiful in their own right. Possibilities are endless if you consider designer lines such as the Calicos and the extreme black animals with the albino gene mixed in. Color and contrast is unlimited. I'm looking forward to seeing the first red albino baby.

Brandon Osborne

MegF Jul 27, 2005 07:34 PM

I have to agree Brandon. I didn't think Floyd looked at all like the Canary or Mustard chondros. He definitely looks like he has orange tones to the yellow. Absolutely beautiful!
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1~Green tree python~Tempest
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....

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