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cross an ultra hypo to anything het amel and get ultramels?.....

then why did I get what I would call hypomels and not ultramels?...

looked at a pic of what is to be an ultramel and it is amel looking...and mine are hypo looking.......?

so...do I have hypomels?........and not ultramels?......

.........are there hypomels and ultramels?......

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anyone have a pic of them all.......including ultra-hypo-lavender.......ultra -opal...........ultramel aztec?........

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anyone ever find out who had the first ultra hypo?.......

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Kat and CCcorn have ultramels. If you have Ultras, when you breed it to an amel you should be seeing a percentage of ultramels. This has been proven by many breeders. The typical ultramel has a small amount of melanin (t , not really, maybe)showing with ruby eyes. I will post pics of an ultra ghost and what I think is an ultramel although they were sold to me as ruby eyed ghost and hypo.
If you are not seeing ultramels when you breed your ultra to an amel, maybe it is not ultra.

Ultramel?

ULtraghost

UltraGhost?

Here's an ultramel motley.

If you want a good sampling of Ultramel critters, go to the American Cornsnake Registry website and do a Phenotype search for Hypo-Ultramel.

-Kat
American Cornsnake Registry search page

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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

Do you have any pictures of Ultraghosts? I'm not sure if mine is or not, but it has ruby eyes, the typical high yellow of ultras, and it's sister is the previous picture. It will be a few years before I can prove it out.
Yohee was saying that he is not getting ultramels from his breedig of ultra to amel if I understood him correctly. I will see him in a few weeks to see what he has. There may be Ultras that are not giving ultramels.

wrong pic at first....yes the second pic was ghost.....

is that one motley a lava?.....

yes I got ulramel I guess.....

............yes I think they are crossed to grey rat

yes people don't seem to confirm that they think they are crosses.....

guess it's just cremes that frak people out to the 1% crossed gene of Emoryi.....

anyways.........

.........Hamburg they will be sold anyways........

yep.......
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................Yea.that's what she said............................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The pic was of an ultramel... so it wasn't an ultraghost. The pic of the ghost-looking critter looks ultra-ghosty though, and if it's a sibling to your ultramel, then it likely is an ultraghost.
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

can you explain to me what to expect when buying an ultramel from someone...what should be the characteristics to look for? Ruby colored eyes??? What about the belly checkers, and the borders? I read somewhere that they should be kind of purplish..is this true? Since they vary so much, I was wondering what would be the main thing(s) to look for. Thanks alot, and have a GREAT day!!!!!!
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Paula
31 Corns, 3 Ratsnakes, 1 BP, 2 Kings, 3 Amazon Tree Boas

Have a GREAT day!!!!!!!

Ruby eyes... if they're young, any border markings will be more purplish. The markings will never be black.

Basically, the best way to describe them is that their color is somewhere between that of a hypo and that of an amel.

Take all this with a grain of salt, as the morph is still new enough that we don't know all the variations of it.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

I just looked at one guy's pic and it was red.I looked at others thanx to spardawolf and they are more hypo-ish

I guess mine are ultramel het lav......

.......yes I have ultras.....from Rich Z uchowski a few years ago before he crodded to anything / colors.......

they were cheap then

they are nutty snakes now.....female started acting crazy today too .....

I hate them...LMAO......
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................Yea.that's what she said............................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

if you think what you have is anything to do with ultra and you have bred it to an amel and got no ultramels than what you suspected as having ultra in it is not. it has been proven as Kat can tell you, that ultra is on the same loci as amel, which means that when ultra is bred to amel you will get some combinations of the two in a percentage of the offspring...

ultra/amel = ultramel
ultra = fairly new (LOL) form of hypo.
amel

those above results should come from breeding ultramel to ultramel.

Ultramel
amels

above are the results from breeding ultramel to anything amel.
i believe these results also will hold true when bredding an ultra hypo to an amel. but, further proof is needed.