help with identification of 2 ornates.
This is pokey hes about 30 years old. I'm pretty sure he is ornata ornata.


This is Lucky, he was very sick in a pet shop and they ended up giving him to me. After some deworming injection, he is doing much better. His shell is discolored perhaps from malnutrition? My main question is regarding if he is ornata ornata or a desert ornate. Thanks.







