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update on Dog...

tristan Jul 28, 2005 05:34 PM

Well,
I took Dog to the vet and he got a blood test and his stool analyzed. Turns out that he's dehydrated and has worms.
He got his first treatment of Panicure today and has two treatments left. The doctor suggested to try to feed him hibiscus to encourage his apetite. He ate a couple of petals and that was it.
The doc also suggested for me to get him moist and to try to assist him in shedding, although I know he's gonna whip me a couple of times.
I'm hoping he'll pull through and start eating again. I really love him. Wish him luck,
Tristan

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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)

Replies (11)

el_toro Jul 28, 2005 06:02 PM

I've had to deal with various types of parasites more times than I care to think about. Once the Panacur starts to clean out his system, his appetite should come right back! As an extra measure, I usually add some probiotics to whatever is actually being eaten when they're on any kind of medication - even one that isn't an antibiotic. I do it just to keep up the good gut flora and prevent flare ups of "bad" ones while the uro's recovering. Hope Dog improves soon!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx geyri (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Uromastyx dispar maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.1 Uromastyx ornata (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
2.1.2 Anolis carolinensis (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo, and Pickles 1&2)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

tristan Jul 29, 2005 01:31 AM

hope i don't sound stupid... but what are probiotics? and where can i get them? i've heard of antibiotics but not probiotics.
also, could you please explain what exactly it does?
thanks for your advice torey,
tristan

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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)

el_toro Jul 29, 2005 02:45 AM

It's any mix of several strains of "good" bacteria - the brand I have is Nutribac which about six kinds. It comes in a powder that I sprinkle on their salads. I got mine from Doug Dix at a show, but it's available elsewhere, too. I know they sell it at fowlersfood.com and probably other places as well. There's other brands like Bene-bac, too.

It's mainly to replace any good bacteria that are killed when the animal is on antibiotics. Panacur isn't an antibiotic, but I use the Nutribac any time my uros are under the weather. It's something that I can't guarantee will help, but it can't hurt, either!
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Uromastyx geyri (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Uromastyx dispar maliensis (Tank, Turtle, and Spike)
1.1 Uromastyx ornata (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
2.1.2 Anolis carolinensis (Bowser, Sprocket, Leeloo, and Pickles 1&2)
1.1 Felis domesticus (Roscolux and Jenny)

purduecg Jul 29, 2005 11:40 AM

As a side note, this is an excellent thing for people to do to. Particularly when taking antibiotics, antifingals, really anything that is trying to kill things in your system. For people it is best to ingest them "live", so the probiotics are often kept in the fridge section of health food stores. This is also why many yogurts say "with live acidopholous cultures", its a good thing! Though I wouldn't recommend feeding your Uro yogurt! (Though you do use it with horses sometimes ).

Keep us posted, I will keep you and Dog in my thoughts!

Elizabeth
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1.0 Mali Uro Archimedes (May he rest in peace)
0.0.1 Egyptian Uro Zuberi Mosca Khu (Mosca)
0.0 Fish
0.1 Sulcata Minnie
1.1 Iguanas Flik and Loki
0.1 Newfoundland Jasmine (RIP)
0.1 Feline Winter
Indiana & Wisconsin

esoteric Jul 29, 2005 01:09 PM

>>It's any mix of several strains of "good" bacteria - the brand
>>I have is Nutribac which about six kinds.

From what I understand, the intentions of the products appear to be well and good, but the benefits and practicality of the delivery method aren't entirely well understood nor are the contents of the vial. There's some sparse information that's available on the net regarding these things if your up for the search, and I'm highly favoring the side of skepticism.

With the human dietary supplement market being the controversial deceptive unregulated thievery it is, I can't put a whole lot of confidence in what's delivered as a pet product of equal caliber. If this were a veterinary product that had both been tested, researched, FDA approved, and the contents regulated/guaranteed, I might not speak so sharply.

>>It's something that I can't guarantee will help, but it can't
>>hurt, either!

Unfortunately, I can't agree with that statement. The whole supplements industry seems to thrive under this notion. I've met many people who blindly consider that anything promoted as natural is harmless while things synthesized or refined are inherently dangerous, which can't be farther from the truth.

I tried this specific product out on some otherwise healthy and thriving animals only for them to get the [bleep]s following introduction.
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2.3.0 uromastyx geyri (Saharan/Nigerian)
0.0.4 uromastyx hardwickii (Indian)
3.6.0 uromastyx macfadyeni (Somalian)
1.2.0 uromastyx ocellata (Sudanese)
1.3.0 uromastyx ornata (Ornate)
1.0.0 uromastyx benti pseudophilbyi

tristan Jul 29, 2005 08:02 PM

i took Dog to serrano in lake forest and he was inspected by dr. weldy. he seems to know uros pretty well (he said he has/had some iguanas in the past). i will keep him as my herp vet for now on.
thanks for the reference!!
tristan
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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)

uromagnus Jul 29, 2005 09:16 AM

good luck... i know what u are going through!
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150-200 tropical fish

3 African Clawed Frogs (1 olive and 2 albino)

Luca - male Ornate Uromastyx via Audrey Vanderlinden

- Mike
Morris Cty, NJ

- in memory of Magnus (male Uromastyx Macfadyeni)
he will always be my little boy

tristan Jul 29, 2005 03:23 PM

It turns out that Dog ate some of his green beans yesterday, which put a smile on my face. I mixed his greens today with some thawed frozen veggies. Hopefully he chows down!
I'll keep you guys posted.
Tristan

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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)

flbriaz Jul 29, 2005 04:09 PM

Goodluck! Any idea how he got worms? I hope he pulls through...

tristan Jul 29, 2005 07:59 PM

well, i got him from a lady in hollywood about 1.5 years ago. she said he was approximately 3 years old and acquired him from a friend that left the country. when i first got him he was PLUMP.
he was solid until he slowed his eating down a couple of weeks ago.
i'm not sure whether he was WC or CB (i didn't ask the lady).... so i'm not exactly sure how he got them. i just hope they go away!!
tristan

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Tristan
1.1 Blood Pythons (Rambo and Medussa)
1.2 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dog, Cleo, Slo Mo)
0.1 Suriname Red Tail Boas (Stoney)

jeune18 Jul 29, 2005 10:12 PM

someone on here once told me that sometimes veggies can have parasites on them and if you don't wash the food well, it can give parasites to them. also if you ever feed bugs as treats that they can carry them also. even if everyone is healthy, i try to take in fecal samples every 6 months, just to make sure everything is ok
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vonnie
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