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I caught a snake 2 days ago,and i just found out is common house snake...i dont know much bout it.From the 2004 archive i found out that it eat lizard and cricket sometimes.

but the problem is that it is only 0.5cm width and 11cm long(estimated),is still very small..i dunno what to feed...i'm afraid it will starve to death.

and what temperature and housing will be best suit for it?

is not common to keep as a pet for this type of snake right?

no much of the care sheet for this wolf snake,so i hope someone who knows bout this can give me some answers and advice.Thanks!!

It is rarely seen here. My sources say skinks and Geckoes for food. I have not heard much on husbantry but what I have seems to indicate they are a bit delicate.

I would give it a good layer of medium to burrow in and check the temps for S.E. Asia species to give you an indication on that. Misting may be a good idea as well.

Nice snake.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Thanks.
But is kinda hard to catch lizard for it...even thought sometimes i catch one or two..but quite rare.

I try fed ant ,spider(very small one) and bug..but it wont eat.

well..i checked it also kinda nippy...dunno is it because it is timid.

but i think very few people keep this kind of snake...i wonder why..since it is harmless..

Thanks for your reply!!

if you cought it in your area you dont need to worry about the temp, just recreat the temp and try giving it a cricket, snail/slug or a meal worm. just recreate its surroundings as much as possible, and please if you feel it will die let it go where you found it(unless its far away) or give it to someone who knows what to with it. and also i think kingsnake has a house snake care sheet. good luck

sorry for misleading info. where are you from?

I'm from Malaysia..Why?which info that u gave was misleading?
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Anyway...yesterday i searched for quite long in kingsnake.com bout this common wolf/house snake but couldnt find anything except in the year 2004 forum.
Even i search other website but most is info bout milk/boa constrictor/python..and couldnt find any care for the baby snake,all i found was for adult snake or juvenil snake...but mine i think just born not even a month.thts y i kinda lost and worry.can i hand feed?but normally it will end up force eating cuz i don think it will eat.(anyway..i never handfeed any snake before..)

we joked that should find the mother of that snake in lab and i asked my friend if she find it asked the contact number for me so i can ask how to take care..anyway...that's just a bit nut of us.
i think the mother snake is just around the compound..wonder will she search for it.If she really search i think she will kill me.

Thanks.U know i try gave it ant,spider(very small one),and bug.but it refuse to eat.
Well...do i need to let it in a dark area so it will eat?

Is kinda worry for me to let it go cuz i caught it in my school Chemistry lab(Wonder how it got there).I thought of released it back to the school compound but if it was found by others student is very hard to say what will happend.

I'll get some criket or mealworm and see...but i think the size of the criket is bigger much than the snake,will the criket harm the snake?

well...i checked and found out is common to find at garden..so acquarium without grass should be ok??...

Thanks for your reply!!

sorry..is me again..i can get some snail..but too big it cant eat right?and can it eat snail?since snail got the shell atteach to it...
sorry...i never keep snake before eventhought i always wanted one so is my first time pls forgive me asking too many question.

thanks.

Two things....First of all have you tried looking online for info on your snake? There are several excellent books out about the snakes in your area.

For example:

A PHOTOGRAPHIC GUIDE TO SNAKES AND OTHER REPTILES OF PENINSULAR MALAYSIA,SINGAPORE AND THAILAND ISBN 0-88359-043-3

Second. NOTHING I have read about this group of snakes indicates that they eat insects, slugs or any of the suggested foods listed above-Except LIZARDS.

There are references to frog eating and possibly NB mice but that's it.

I strongly suggest that if you cannot obtain the proper food for your snake soon, then release it back where you caught it. At this point it is the responsible thing to do.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

well...from what little info i got..(i searched online of course for countless hours!!and cuz of spend too long online searching..no sleep for 1 day,unbelieveable now i still can survive...anyway, as i said...most info i found was bout kingsnake,python and etc.)THe best will be lizard..but from the 2004 forum where an indonesian i guess?he aslo caught the same snake as i..and he was uncertained what snake he got so he posted the pic for help and they told him lizard is the best.but he said he fed cricket all the way and no problem..when he tried feed lizard it refuse to eat,he said may be that lizard too big.

well..lizard easy to find at my house but most much bigger size than baby snake.

releasing it doesnt mean will save it either since is too small..and releasing back to school?the chances to survive are low i think.

anyway..i'll try cricket or mealworm first and see how things go first...

Thanks for your advice and reply.YOu must be really in love with snake.

first, how big of a tank/enclosure do you have it in? im assuming a wild caught snake will want room so give it plenty if you have the supplies keep a glass tank (escape proof) outside for it to live in so the temperature, humidity, and light will be similar to what its used to. put some dirt or sand or dried leaves in the cage with some sticks for climbing, hiding spots, a water dish and some rocks in the cage and if there is enough room it should feel at home and may eat a cricket /mealworm but make sure the crickets have food or your cute little snake will become food. since this is your first snake can i ask what kind of expierience you have with reptiles? if you want to force feed wait as long as possilbe before trying it, leave a worm,cricket or lizard(the last two need food) in the cage unbothered over night and see if it eats. to force feed puts tons of stress on a snake so you should give up and try again later after 2 or 3 tries, use a safety pin, paper clip, or something similar to pry open its mouth, thenput the prekilled prey item in its mouth the remove the clip and let the mouth close on it, set it down and if you put it back far enough the snake will be forced to swallow it then leave it alone in its cage for a day or to to digest unless you fed it a bug, and if you fed it a bug than as soon as the first id down far enough to fit another put in a lizard or another cricket. if there is any ponds near were you found it it may like fish or frogs

Well...i have an iguana.Snake never rear before though interested.You have a lot of snakes as pet?

what does the cricket eat?Normally i saw the seller packed it with newspaper...and the criket will eat (or chew?) the paper...if
let the meal worm go around will be ok right?

wow..never thought can use tht as a tool to open up it mouth..but i think kinda hard since it is a so fast moving species.somemore i think almost impossible to force another pray right after first one.anyway...i think i'll wait and see.Force eating normally bring great negative effect but if nessecery then no choice.I thought it ate the spider..was so happy...but nah..it just encircling it and make some of the legs of the spider fall apart..same to tht bug also.

Thanks for the advice and reply!

yes i do love snakes, i only have three now but ive only been a snake owner for six months.
putting a second prey item is ok if they are both small, and they snake has no way of refusing it.
im not sure what a mealworm eats but you can feed crickets thin slices of orange, or you can buy "gutload" from a petstore wich makes crickets/mealworms more nutricous.

so we dont fill up the forum with our posts about your snake we could continue through email, if your comfortable with that you can post your email adress or email it to my old one.

lately ive been planning on catching a garter snake (very common around here)and trying to raise it in captivity and maybe breed someday, and maybe you could give tips on things that worked for you.
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my addiction:
2 ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 albino corn snake (maizy

Hi, have you tried feeding this house snake on pinky mice, or even a pinky mouse sliced lengthways, i have 6 house snakes and 3 on the way and they all are rodent eaters.

a nice care sheet is www.snakebreeder.co.uk/html/how_snake.html

Or go to kingsnake pages on house snakes www.kingsnake.com/housesnake/nathist.html

Ok, since you have apparently decided to take the word of someone who has only six months of keeping vs someone with 35 years of experience with exotic species. I withdraw from this.

Sorry but your continued insistance on insects will result in the snakes death. Its better off free.

A prime example why experienced professional herpers tend to ignore begginer questions.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

i wasnt trying to say im more expierienced than you, i was only trying to help and the insect thing was only to get it comfortable eating in captivity, and i didnt know it would kill it. sorry, things like that are why i go on forums to learn from poeple who know more than me.
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my addiction:
2 ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 albino corn snake (maizy

ive also never raised a wc snake, so im no expert but i was just trying to help.
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my addiction:
2 ball pythons (lazlo and izzy)
1 albino corn snake (maizy

ok..sorry. to get you into this mess...i dunno and just found out this comparing experince thing..

first of all..your advice may not be the best compare to others who are mor experince...but most importantly you are trying to help so that's all count..and experince is gain from endless trying and error..so if no one wiling to give change..how to gain the experience then?
anyway..is all my fault.I realy dont mean to offend anyone here.

and he is kinda fierce,dont you think so?i guess he is a hot temper person..hor hor hor..but his love for exotic animal undoubtable.(wonder will he pissed off again if he see this message?)

oh....do i have to state which reply goes to who??

anyway...just in case...the get into mess one is for you,goregrind.i should have post it under my archicve one.never mind.

and the very long reply is for the guru-rearfang.

wow wow wow...just few days never check the forum...i smell something is burning..the temperature kinda high huh.

em....ok...i put the spider...half of the body missing...but i not sure it eat it or what...anyway...no worry of lizard...my house got a lot...just that need to go catch it..and need some luck sometimes...anyway...already caught 2 baby lizards..(i dint caught big one cuz worry too big wont eat)...but i haven try feed it.

Well...experience or not...i dunno...i just take watever advice and give a try...if the insect wont work then i'll try other thing then...like you said..it only eat lizard.I'll try that too.Just that other also give cricket so it may work also..anyway..i haven try give it that since the noise of the cricket pretty annoying..

you expertise on exotic animal I'm sure no one dare to challenge ..(i should called you guru and you does have the guru style(so firece))and thanks for your concern for the snake..i really apprecaite it.so far..em...it looks fine to me...(hope it really does )If the snake is not well...how you know it?will it look like no energy?lazy to move or something like that?

ok...one last question...i guess u breed snake before...including baby snake?since u have 35yrs experience.so how often have to feed a baby snake then?

sorry..this reply kinda long..thanks for your reply..thought you get angry since dint see your reply..and i guess you are kinda pissed after i found your reply..well..cool down k.

Hi...thanks for your reply..sorry for late reply...

ok...but mine is common house snake..not afican house snake...i checked before..never mention it eat mice but lizard...somemore it really small..the width around 0.6cm only.length is 13cm...estimated.

i caught 2 lizards..but haven try give it to eat..
how often you feed your snake?
all the pets you bought from pet shop or u caught it?
All are adult snakes?

the website address you gave me i'll check some other day since now is 2am here..my eyes is like panda now..night.And thanks.

Hi...sorry for late reply....busy..

Ok...what's your email then??

em...i caught 2 little lizards...but haven try to feed.

i gave spider few days ago...and i found out tht half of the body of the spider missing...but i don't know whether the snake eat it or the meal worm or ..??...
Anyway...it look fine...(i hope so)..

very easy to catch that snake you mention?but will it be hard to tame if the snake is adult snake?

oya!how often have to feed the baby snake?