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i used to see a lot of people breeding blue phase but i dont see it as much anymore.i dont think its because of lack of people interested.a bright,almost 100 percent blue chondro is really second to none and very rare in my opinion.so why dont too many people breed these designers?? i have read in a few places that blue phase snakes are rare and almost all the so called blue phases out there are nothing more that regular green females that turn blue only when gravid for a short time, and this ,in no way creates blue babies.another type of blue adults are females over the age of say 18.i read that many very old female snakes will turn blue in old age and again this in no way creates blue offspring,that is unless you raise one of these females for 18 years.not exactly my idea of a blue phase.so,are there any real blue phase males to speak of?? is it hereditary?? when i see blue snakes they very rarly even look true blue.they usually look greenish blue.so anyone wanna comment on this?? id love a blue one but have no idea where to start or how much of a risk it is since it may very well prove not to be hereditary.yellow and blue make green.so when you are lacking blue pigment,you have yellow(fairly common color for chondros) so why isnt it just as common to instead lack yellow?? this way if you lack yellow pigment,youll have an all blue snake.

They're out there go to these two sites and look around you'll find the answers your looking for http://www.chondroweb.com/index.html http://p219.ezboard.com/fmoreliaviridisfrm1
This link will show you the thread about this blue male
http://p219.ezboard.com/fmoreliaviridisfrm1.showMessage?topicID=2690.topic
Lots of info on those sites and others take a read. Randy

>>i used to see a lot of people breeding blue phase but i dont see it as much anymore.i dont think its because of lack of people interested.a bright,almost 100 percent blue chondro is really second to none and very rare in my opinion.so why dont too many people breed these designers?? i have read in a few places that blue phase snakes are rare and almost all the so called blue phases out there are nothing more that regular green females that turn blue only when gravid for a short time, and this ,in no way creates blue babies.another type of blue adults are females over the age of say 18.i read that many very old female snakes will turn blue in old age and again this in no way creates blue offspring,that is unless you raise one of these females for 18 years.not exactly my idea of a blue phase.so,are there any real blue phase males to speak of?? is it hereditary?? when i see blue snakes they very rarly even look true blue.they usually look greenish blue.so anyone wanna comment on this?? id love a blue one but have no idea where to start or how much of a risk it is since it may very well prove not to be hereditary.yellow and blue make green.so when you are lacking blue pigment,you have yellow(fairly common color for chondros) so why isnt it just as common to instead lack yellow?? this way if you lack yellow pigment,youll have an all blue snake.

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I don't care if the glass is half full or half empty !
I just want the full glass I paid for !

blue is my favorite color on snakes.
lovely!
thanks for posting that pic and info

PURPLE is my favorite color on snakes.

But BLUE is a close second.

Thats an amazing looking GTP! Beautifull animal!

thanks for shareing.

Fred Albury

i dunno man, you might want to look around. there are alot of true blue chondros starting to pop up. This line is very new blue chondros were once very very very rare and we are just starting to see the light on this projects.

A hormonal blue female can pop out blue chondros when bred to a high blue male. or 2 not so high blue parents (with high blue blood lines) can pop out blue males. This all had to start somewhere right!?

Designer chondros are just in the begining stages and its a very exciting time to be in this hobby...

John Holland is one of the pioneers of this line as is Tim morris. here is a thread for you.

http://p219.ezboard.com/fmoreliaviridisfrm1.showMessage?topicID=1980.topic

This site dosent have the best information always.

www.chondroweb.com
www.morealiaviridisforum.com

go there, but greg maxwells book he talks about the blue line in quite some detail.

Hope this helped.!

Those blues are absolutely stunning!!! Ah to be rich! I just hope my new Sarong developes some decent blue. As I recall, Greg also states that breeding two blues often results in.....no high blues! The genetics are a nightmare for these snakes.

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Blue is hereditary wether it be ontogenic or as a result of a female going through reproductive events. The bad news is the blue isn't 100% predictable. The good news is some bloodlines are proven to be more potent than others. The shade of blue and amount of blue varies. Not all female green tree pythons become blue.

Not all female green tree pythons become blue.

Here are some examples less typical green tree pythons which exhibit blue. The male is ontogenic blue, meaning he went right to blue after being a red hatchling. His brightness of blue improves with age. The female was partly blue after changing from a yellow hatchling. She gained the rest of her blue after her first pregnancy. She remains blue.