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I heard from the guy who had that snake last night and he said his was Don's line and no different than the ones you see pics of on here. He did not have any pics of the striper handy...and I even emailed our local herp club to see if anyone local bought it. No response yet. Not likely I will get one...but I am guessing the pic you saw {Jetzen} was possibly unintentionally altered with the flash???? Guess we'll never know.. Tom Stevens

Also.....I looked at Don's site last night and saw his Hypo Splendida breeder....It looks the same as Kerby's.
I may drop him a line and see if he can post some hypo Splendida pics here......
And I know for a fact Brad L. got his from Don. He sent me lots of pics years ago, but I don't have them anymore.....sorry.
John Lassiter

anyway i still think those chocolate colored splendida don't look very hypo, maybe when they're bred to be lighter, but not the way they look now.

Fact of the matter is you are basing your judgement by a photo. I know for a fact Hypo anything is hard to capture the true look via camera. Ive taken pics of the most vivid looking Hypo Brooksi and on film they look like dogs. Ive also seen those Hypo Splendida before and its one of those things were you have to have it in hand or see it in person to truly see the hypo gene at work. Im guessing they have been proven out with breeding so the fact that it doesnt fit your description of what a Hypo should or shouldnt look like is really negligible.

Keith
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The hypo strain I have is from Vince Schitt (probably mispelled) in California. The other one I understand is from a guy in Lousiana that was breeding hypos also. I understant that he also got his from Vince. This year I did breed a female het hypo (black and yellow) to a really nice male that came from a guy in Louisiana (which was also black and yellow) and some of the babies came out as nice hypos (brown and yellow). I will get some pics of the babies. I ended up getting black and yellows and brown and yellows. I also have bred hypos to het hypos and have gotten both colors. Don

Negligible? Whatever,lol, you can have your guesses and i'll have mine.

Sorry wasnt trying to be rude my point is that you are seemingly very adamant about that not being a hypo. My point is how can you be so sure from one pic...not two or three pics but one. Also the negligible part is not matter what you say or think it doesnt change what it is so yes your opinion is negligible and so is mine for that matter. I think you need not say with such conviction thats not a hypo basing it upon one pic compared to another. Have you ever held or seen a Hypo Splendida in person ?

Keith
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Thanks for minding your manners,You think what you want and i'll think what i want, no problem, and to be honest, No, i never held a hypo splendida or even a milk chocolate splendida.
Have a great day.

Well Im trying thanks for noticing

Keith
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Keep up the great work on your resource site, i'm gonna go there right now, as i said b/4 and i'll say again GET PUBLISHED so i can add a Hillson book to my library!

Keith, here is another picture of some of the baby splendida that came from a pair of normal black and yellow het hypo splendida. I got 4 or 5 hypo and the rest were normal.

hey guys not sure if that is hypo so much as color variant kinda like these easterns. could be hypo a couple of breeding generations would confirm it.living in san antonio most of my life i caught lots of splendida and splendidaXholbrooki intergrades some area's had all brown(or hypo) while other area's had the typical black from what i remember finding them like that led me to beleive that it was a variant of some sort occuring throughout the range(which is very diverse) as i never found browns where i found blacks or vice-versa. i gotta say IF it is a hypo gene at work there are several pops across its VAST range that it(hypo) occur in. regardless its cool to see splendida get some LIMELITEfuture captive generations will only get better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
{seriously would you call my male eastern hypo? see what i mean in 3rd pic?}

is the btm pic a HYPO?

John

it's lighter than it's sib in the top pic so, it must be a hypo of some sort?

ROFLMAO.....
That dark brown splendida could be compared to your so called Chocolate milk calkings as it is not a recessive trait like the hypo spendida that are being produced by many today.......
Do you also notice the higher amount of yellow up the sides of the hypos?????
Man are you hard headed.......LOL
Disclaimer: You know I am just kidding. I respect your strong view as it is plainly your opinion just like everyones.....
John Lassiter

Not a splendida but a Cal"YUMA"-X-Holbrooki"TEXAS", sorry to confuse you,lol! and yes i agree it's not a hypo. I'm gonna chill out now about this because i've already started enough trouble.

By the way Brad did not get his hypo splendida from me. I think they came from Southern Reptiles in Lousiana but I think Southern Reptiles got theirs from the same guy I got mine from.

Thanks for the info and any chance of getting those splendida any lighter? or do you think that's as good as it gets?

Here is a picture of some of the splendida from a pair of normal het hypos. The parents are black and yellow and here is a partial count ofv what came out of the breeding.

BUT all i see is Drk. choc. and Mlk. choc., it just does'nt look extreme enough to be called hypo, IMO

Well, if you saw them in person you could really tell the difference. I know in different snakes there are different degrees of hypomelanism. Maybe I'm totally off base and you are an expert I don't know. Like the hondurans, some are more hypo then others. All I know is the adults are not CHOCOLATE and some of the babies are. You say one is more chocolate then the other so I say your monitor is not clear. Some are black and yellow just like their parents. Just my thoughts.

But i do get the impression that "TRUE" hypo splendida will eventually be produced and when it does it will look so hypo that no one would even think about questioning it's validity.
i'm sorry if you're offended

This is one of the reasons I don't like posting on the forum. It seems people just get on here and start disagreements. I really don't care if you think they are hypo or not I just know they are. This is my last post about this. Done!!

Well, I am glad you cleared that up for me...
I guess I DIDN'T know for a fact that he got his from you.....OOPS
I think I remember HIM telling me that they were the same stock as yours and YOU later telling me that his were the same stock as yours......
Anyway.....I think they are hypo by definition of reduced black pigment and their genes are simple recessive (unlike chocolate calkings). We will really be for sure when the Hybinos and Ghosts start hatching in a year or three......
Then the snows.......
John Lassiter