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The albino Mexican milks posted for sale are truly beautiful. But because annulata breed so readily in captivity, how long will they be priced so high? Look at what happened with albino Nelsons. Remember the 70's when albino corn snakes were top drawer? This comment is from someone who once invested too much in anerthrystic New Mexico milks and hypo Coastal Plains. I'm reformed but... those Mexican milks are nice.

Do you still have Anery Celaenops? I would love to see pics of those!

Sorry, but I don't. I said good-bye to milk snakes about five years ago. But it's been hard. I see Coastal Plains milks in the future. So many spots in St. Marys Co. are gone now. The scoll bus dump is gone to houses. The tin woods are now pretty much just woods. Got to start scouting around.

That the albino mexican milks will stay priced high for a little while. Since there will be I think, 35 animals for sale that possess the albino gene, there will not only be one person working with them anymore.

Hardy Reptiles will breed them again next year, and I'm sure the price will be just as high next year. But the year after that, some of the new breeders from other people may be sexually mature, and that's where the compeition starts. As more and more of the 35 become sexually mature, and Hardy Reptiles continue selling offspring every year, there will probably be more than 500 albino mexican milk snakes on the market in 5 years.

And I can predict that before they've seen a decade in the market, their prices will be as low as the albino nelson's milks and such.

Mike
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I don't think they will hold value for more then 2-3 years, are there any other annulata mutations out there?

The big problem is, with all those freaken hybrids out there, how are we assured these aren't mixed with ruthveni or other mutts, not saying they are but that can't be overlooked!

Brian A.

The Hardy snakes are pure. As far as mixing with other animals? Well the same could have been said about nelsoni. But they were pure.
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Steve W.

"But they were pure"

>>The big problem is, with all those freaken hybrids out there, how are we assured these aren't mixed with ruthveni or other mutts, not saying they are but that can't be overlooked!
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>>Brian A.

this post dramatically illustrates why hybrids do more damage than they're worth. why should herpetoculture be denied the excitement of the appearance of a new morph--a rare, extraordinary event--because this uncertainty exists? the hybrids rob us all by diminishing the excitment such an event would have generated in the pre-hybrid hobby.

(not picking on you, brian a., it's the hybridisers who create the problem: your post just illustrates one of the consequences people sometimes brush off too casually, imho)

peace
terry

Yes hybridizers have made the appearance of new forms less rare but I fail to see how this ruins the excitement. Besides, its fairly easy to gather that albino annulata traces back to w/c stock AND that this is well collaborated. The hybrid trepidation of a single poster is not a clear demonstration of the damage hybridizers do! The problem isn’t that hybrids exist it’s that some people lie especially when money is involved (and more so when it’s a lot of money). That unfortunately is the world we live in and we all need to deal with it. I’m not sure that making inferences that someone is causing “damage” because they are doing something that threatens our sensibilities is rational way of dealing though. I for one don’t think it well advised to wish for a reduction in the diversity of what it is we. There’s plenty of room in the sand box.

As always "Peace"!