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I got twins TOO!

JPR Aug 06, 2005 09:09 AM

I woke up early this morning and found a nice suprise 2 Pie females. This is my first set of Twins. I have a question for people who had twins before. Were both of the animals attached to one egg yolk or did they have seperate yolks. These girls happen to share the same yolk. Unfortunately I wasn't able to snap a pic before they split. Thanks for looking. See you guys in Daytona

John Piro

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Replies (9)

RoyalVariations Aug 06, 2005 09:13 AM

np
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Royal Variations

Murphinski Aug 06, 2005 09:22 AM

nm

muddoc Aug 06, 2005 10:20 AM

Hey John,
It looks like you are having some great luck this year with the Lucy, the Lavenders and now twin pieds. I would have thought that twins sharing the same yolk would be identical, but I saw some differences in the pattern. Nice looking pieds. It looks like you've got yourself alot of females to grow up.
Congrats Again,
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Tim and Monica Bailey
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RandyRemington Aug 06, 2005 11:19 AM

So how do you tell if they are sharing the same yolk? Mine almost always absorb it before they come out of the egg. Would the paternal twins always have two yolks or could they share the same yolk too but just not the same cord going to the yolk? I hatched twin males in 2000. Didn't see anything about the yolk but they had different patterns. I guess the only time you can be really sure what you have is if they are different genders (then you know they aren't genetically identical). Interesting that these two where both high white even if not the same exact pattern. Pied pattern might be like fingerprints, which are different even on genetically identical twins.

toshamc Aug 06, 2005 12:14 PM

I was wondering the same thing - I would have figured they'd be identical if there were sharing a yolk - but I guess comparing patterns to fingerprints makes sence.

Congrats BTW they look great!!!
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JPR Aug 06, 2005 12:17 PM

I cut the egg open alot to check for any deformities and saw that they were attach to the same yolk sack. The sack was about pencil thick and just over an inch long. I didn't get to snap a pic them because my battery died and when it was charged they have came apart. I really wish I got a picture of them connected. Maybe someday i'll get a DNA test down on them.

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RandyRemington Aug 06, 2005 12:34 PM

I saved a shed skin from each of mine since they where males I didn't want to keep with the thinking that some day there might be a test available. I think a lot could be done to apply the ever improving genetic testing to ball pythons so maybe some day we will have even just paternity testing. Twin piebalds could certainly be interesting for looking for genetic components to the amount of white but then they where as close as possible to the same environment too.

redneckreptiles1 Aug 06, 2005 03:16 PM

nice pieds
myles

dumje Aug 07, 2005 01:10 AM

I find it interesting that twin balls...genetically identical from the same egg do not have the same patterns...ever
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