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Mexican Tri-Color ID test

serpentdan Aug 06, 2005 10:21 AM

Just returned from a great Mexican herping safari. Thought it would be fun to test your herping field skills to see who can correctly identify these three tri-colored Lampropeltis species. Good Luck! Dan

Replies (14)

jlassiter Aug 06, 2005 11:07 AM

It is kinda difficult for me to tell....LOL
Larger pics would help ME but if I was to have to guess I would say
Pic #1 is Arcifera
Pic #2 is Annulata
and Pic #3 is Caleanops.
I probably bashed it all up but that is what it looks like to me at first glance.....LOL

Great pics of wild snakes too Dan....Keep them coming if you got any more.
Thanks,
John Lassiter

jlassiter Aug 06, 2005 11:08 AM

Or....are they all the same subspecies of snake?
John

jlassiter Aug 06, 2005 08:53 PM

Oh...You even say they are a species of Lampropeltis and not a sub...So they have to be all the same species.....Were they found in a Mexican State that starts with a Q???????
John Lassiter

vichris Aug 06, 2005 02:15 PM

I'm going to take a WAG at this (Wild A$$ Guess).

#1 Milk snake phase Thayeri
#2 I agree with John L. ... Annulata
#3 again I agree with Johns 1st WAG (LOL) Caleanops.

I sort of agree with Johns 2nd guess. I definately think 2 & 3 could be the same spp. But I would guess # 1 to be something else. Bigger pics would help.

Vichris

crimsonking Aug 06, 2005 08:44 PM

They're all the same species, huh?
I think I know but won't ruin it for others.
I wish mine hatched out with those colors...
:Mark

jlassiter Aug 06, 2005 08:54 PM

Thanks for the big hint Mark.....LOL
John

vichris Aug 06, 2005 10:07 PM

Wow, I'm thinking you guys are right. That was a big hint. They are all excellent representatives if that's what I and (mark and john) think.

kingaz Aug 06, 2005 11:24 PM

I have no clue, so I'll go with l.t. dixoni, l.m. thayeri, l.t. annulata.

Eimon Aug 07, 2005 05:04 AM

I agree, the size of the pics make it harder, but I'll say Ruthveni, Dixoni, and Thayeri. What ever they are, it's awesome to see "field" pics from there. I kind of don't even care which is which....lol. Thanks for putting those up.

Eimon

serpentdan Aug 07, 2005 09:57 PM

You're good!

DV

jlassiter Aug 07, 2005 10:07 PM

LOL.....I was way off.
I thought since you stated they were a species they were all Ruthveni variations.....Oh well.
Thanks for the trivia Dan.

Aaron Aug 09, 2005 12:04 AM

Does that ruthveni really have tangerine bands? I never would have expected to see that.

bobhansen Aug 10, 2005 11:26 AM

Aaron:

Yes, those bands really are tangerine. We were pretty shocked to see that, but apparently this particular population also has "standard" looking ruthveni. But both of the live specimens we obtained were tangerine-banded snakes. I will try to post some other pics tonight.

Bob

jlassiter Aug 10, 2005 07:18 PM

That would be nice to have in some amel project.....Or striped, amel project...
There is my breeder side talking.....LOL

Although....they are beautiful specimens in their "wild and pure" form....
Look forward to some more pics Bob and Dan.....
John Lassiter

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