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lost a gliding... advice on temperature..

sleepofapples Aug 10, 2005 01:02 PM

woke up this morning and my male gliding treefrog was dead very unhappy about that.. i suppose i should not be surprised... happens fairly often with WC animals... but im so dissapointed... i was wondering if he was going to do ok, has been on the bottom of the tank a lot, in the moss, thought maybe he just wanted to stay moist.. but the female stays in the plants.. so he was probably sick from the beginning... not sure if i should be doing something different than i am now for her? dont want to lose her too! any suggestions? added a 50 watt night light on the side away from the plants to add a bit of heat... since it says that they are from tropical rainforests... it is around 75-80 % humidity and the temp is around 74... could they need it warmer? i cant find any info on temp for these guys...
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

Replies (9)

jwthought Aug 10, 2005 03:16 PM

Sorry to hear about that. I know how excited you were about finding one of them. That link I gave you in your previous post didnt say anything about their temperature requirements? I would guess that 74 may be a bit low, but only by a few degrees. Certainly nothing that they couldnt tolerate. I would agree that the frog was probably already sick when you got it. I have NEVER had luck with frogs I got at shows. They are normal quite stressed from the show, let alone being WC and all.

I would be sure that everything in the enclosure is as clean as it possibly can be. I know you have a naturalistic viv, and it would be a real hassle, but I think it's neccesary for the well being of the surviving frog.

I would also recommend taking the frog to a vet to get an exam. If this is not feasible, at least take a fecal sample to check for parasites. Sorry for your loss, but best of luck with this frog.

sleepofapples Aug 10, 2005 11:40 PM

i have to say you are right about getting frogs from shows... i have had some survive, some not.. usually about 50/50... FrogDay in atlanta is in october .. debating on whether or not i should go and buy animals.. but under the canopy will be there and they have never sold me a sick frog..

the one i have left.. should i maybe put her back in the ten gallon with papertowels and a dish of water for a bit longer? make sure she is ok? i dont know what difference it could make.. but at least that way i can keep a closer eye on her.. i am going to try to get a fecal sample to my herp vet tomorrow or as soon as i can ... if she survives i plan on getting more... probably just order them online somewhere... has anyone ever ordered from Mascarino? they seem to know what they are doing ...
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

gbjk Aug 11, 2005 05:04 AM

At least two of my books mention gliding tree frogs for a couple of pages of information.
I'll try to remember to look at them at lunch time, and maybe even bring them in and scan them for you.

G

sleepofapples Aug 11, 2005 09:20 AM

i would like that very much, thank you!
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

gbjk Aug 11, 2005 09:26 AM

Didn't get home for lunch today, but I'll try and remember tonight.
The two books were the two I posted in another thread today:

Frogs, Toads and Treefrogs:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812091566
ISBN is 0812091566

Popular Tree Frogs:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1882770773
ISBN is 1882770773

G

sleepofapples Aug 17, 2005 12:39 PM

did you manage to find that information? i dont have those books where i work.. and havent had time to get to a bookstore as of yet.. between work and school i have NO free time.. would really appreciate it if you could get that info for me! thanks..
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

gbjk Aug 17, 2005 01:33 PM

Haven't managed to remember to take it to work to scan, here's what it says though:

Gliding Tree Frogs (Rhacophorus nigropalmatus and R.rheinwardtii)
The brightly coloured webbing and sides of these large Asian tree marks them as one of the most beautiful specias available.
Unfortunately, imported specimens are usually thin, weak and highly parasitized, and many have varying numbers of dorsal sores.

Size:
Specimens grow up to 3 1/2 inches long.

Care and Maintainance
Captive collections of these frogs often have a high mortality rate, though, by adhering to the procedures listed in this book, you should have some success raising them in captivity.
Flagyl and Baytril treatment, combined with hand feeding, can work miracles on unhealthy animals.
Once established, keep these species under the conditions listed for red-eyed tree frogs. Experts recommend larger plants, such as Chinese evergreens, as perching and possible breeding areas.

Bredding
Although they are not bred in captivity (to our knowledge), keepers should make every effort to establish captive populations of these beautiful tree frogs. Breeding information is not yet available, but gliding tree frogs probably require breeding conditions similar to those listed for red-eyed tree frogs or foam nest frogs.

[ end copy ]

Conditions for keeping RETF are well known, but if you want to know anything just ask.
Sorry there's not more in there about them.

G

sleepofapples Aug 17, 2005 11:51 PM

thanks so much for taking the time to type it out.. i am most definitely going to be getting another one in the future.. hopefully with better luck.. i am misting the remaining one with a baytril/water solution.. so hopefully she makes it..

thanks again for replying..
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my pets: clown treefrogs, reed frogs, big eyed treefrogs, tiger leg monkey frogs, gray treefrogs, milk frogs, cuban treefrogs, whites tree frog, green treefrogs, squirrel treefrogs, blue webbed gliding treefrog, chameleon treefrogs?, dusky salamanders, tiger salamander, veiled chameleon, box turtles, mud turtle, map turtle, yellowbelly slider, florida softshell, two saltwater tanks, four cats, two chinchillas, and a boyfriend.

gbjk Aug 20, 2005 03:33 PM

Any time

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