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parasites

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 02:00 PM

would it hurt my timor if i did just go ahead and treat him for parasite because i did get him at a show , even though it was a cb only show, i think i should do this , any advice because , all he poops is that white crystal stuff, and he ignores food,
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

Replies (15)

blink182herper Aug 12, 2005 02:28 PM

Why treat them if you don't have any evidence of an infection. Even if it is infested, there are other alternatives to worming poisons. Would a doctor give a patient chemotherapy or radiation treatment without knowing if they had cancer or not???

Worming medications are nasty stuff; they are poisons. Why subject your animal to them if it isn't necessary??

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 02:44 PM

idk maybe im over reacting to this situation but , at the same time he should be all over anything that even resembles food, and he isnt even interested ,
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

blink182herper Aug 12, 2005 04:48 PM

Who's to say that the reason why he is not eating is parasites?? There could be a billion other factors causing for his failure to eat. The most probable explanation is that he is probably dehydrated, and is choosing not to eat for a reason. Remember, monitors live with parasites out in the wild all/most of the time. They do not hinder an animal's feeding ability/will to feed, otherwise, they themselves would be s#*t out of luck...

You are experiencing problems due to some flaw in your husbandry. Assuming that it's the fault of parasites is a wrong approach to take. I would look more into your husbandry..

Good Luck

drzrider Aug 12, 2005 03:29 PM

How long has it been since it has not eaten?

He probably poops on you when you hold him daily because it is a defensive reaction.
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Ed

These heat lamps make my electric bill to high.

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 04:52 PM

it has been at least 2 days maybe more
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

mriswith Aug 12, 2005 03:54 PM

Yes it would hurt him for you to give him poison for no reason. As has been posted here befor Monitors can and due live perfectly happy lives with parasites in there guts. If your monitor is healty they are not gonna cause a probelm in and of themselves. 2ndly if you got him at a CB show WHY ON EARTH would you think he would have any kinda parasite??????? did you feed him and wild caught food items????

Shawn
0.1 Blue Spot Timor

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 04:54 PM

no i havnt fed him any wild caught food items , but im just thinking , that some people might say hell to it you know they will just bring animals and just say their cb because really the only person who really knows if its wc ,cb, or ch, is the person who first had the animal , you know what im sayin,
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

mriswith Aug 12, 2005 05:29 PM

I know exactly what you are saying there but I still would not feed an otherwise healthy animal poison on a hunch that it could possiably have parasites. Almost seems like throwing a baby out with the bathwater if you get my drift.

Shawn
0.1 Blue Spot Timor

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 05:44 PM

yea i totaly get what your saying, im just considering all the optiontions right now , and for now im going to leave it as he is stressd out , haveing a nervouse breakdown, lol, but he has been out basking today, and chillinon his log , soo hopefully he is getting more comfortable and then in a few weeks his stuff is all guna change again bescause i will be buildinh him a great cage, 2'w , 2'd , and 4' tall with lots of cork bark and hides
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

jock Aug 12, 2005 04:39 PM

How long have you had him? He could be marking his territory with the white poop. and give him time to acclimate, he will eat when he is comfortable.
good luck
jake

norcalherps Aug 12, 2005 06:02 PM

Theres no reason for it. If you stop molesting him, he will have a good enough immunity to deal with any parasite that may be in his body.

When you treat for parasites, you are putting TOXINS into your reptiles body. Think of chemo- thearpy in humans. Even the noninfectious cells are destroyed.

I kills me to see the importers boasting that their newly acquired monitors are "all dewormed," regardless if they appear healthy or not.

DONT DO IT.

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 06:09 PM

yea i wont treat him for anything , i wasnt to sure about the hole meds thing and what they really were, now that i know that its kinda like chemo therapy , i wont ever do it unless it absolutley hast to be done, and even then i might not, im just not going to have any interaction with him outside of cleaning his water and cage, and maybe a weekly soak, he shall be my "SHOW MONITOR" only , soo thanks alot guys for helpin me out, i kinda feel like an idiot now because i thought i knew alot , but im just scrapeing the tip of the iceburg, i want to thank all of you for helping me reolize how much i really dont know, and giveing me sutch good constructive critisisem
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

norcalherps Aug 12, 2005 08:08 PM

Hahaha

I like you. Youre one step ahead of most people.

1. Youre not afraid to ask alot of questions.
2. Youre humble. Ego, has a way of being the detriment of most people.

cheers!

kevwat87 Aug 12, 2005 08:18 PM

well i like you too , your very informative, and you actually know what your talking about, unlike alot of people, and you have alwase told me when im rong and what to do to correct it, thanks , CHEERS and bottems up ,lol
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.1 blue spot timor
these lamps make my room hot!!!!

joeysgreen Aug 13, 2005 07:32 AM

I read about half of the posts so far and it doesn't seem like you are getting much of an answer.

Deworming medications are (or should be) prescriptions in your area. They can be toxic, however side effects are zero to minimal in a HEALTHY animal. Your guy has not eaten, and from what I gather, has not defecated much since you've gotten him; which may be a sign that it hasn't eaten much for the previous person either. This is reasonable grounds to classify your monitor as UNHEALTHY for whatever reason. In the meantime, do what you can to optimize husbandry, rehydrate and nurish your monitor. Minimize stress, handling, and viewing. If it doesn't come around in the next few days, contact the herp vet that I"m sure you've already looked up, for a visit. He/she will discuss different diagnositics that can be used to assess the overall health of your animal, and the affects of any treatments that may be necessary.

If your monitor comes around with the above advice and a vet visit is not needed, than perhaps bring in a stool sample to see if deworming is necessary.

Ian

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