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Getting Rid Of Smell

MultipleMorphHerps Aug 13, 2005 01:32 PM

Came home today after feedind my common snapper some fish and noticed a very strong smell....FISH. I think he popped that oily' bladder that fish have and that's what is causing the smell. I also noticed an oily' residue on the surface of the water.

Since he is kept indoors in a rubbermaid tub, I would like to know how to eliminate this smell. Rinsing the tub and srubbing the rocks didn't get rid of it 100%.

Setup:
Rubbermaid Tub
Fish Tank (natural) rock substrate
3 large rocks for his hide
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Replies (9)

mohawkthunder Aug 13, 2005 09:20 PM

Ahhhhhhh, the great fish smell problem! Well, here is the only solution to any fish eating turtle. Filters! Snappers are messy feeders and leave fish parts all over the place. Try and net out the remains it doesnt eat and let a good in tank filter do the rest. Unfortunatly there is no easy way to keep turtles clean and still water that doesnt circulate surely does not help. Give that a try and good luck!

mr_phew Aug 13, 2005 11:39 PM

What size turtle are you feeding? What kind of fish are you feeding to your snapper?

I've been feeding mine mostly crappie minnows & flathead minnows and have never had a problem with the smell. My snappers are 2 years old, so they're still relatively small, but in one tank I use a canister filter, which is okay....but in my smaller snapper's tank, I just have some cheap filter in there and I still don't get a smell. Due to the cheap filter, I have to clean it every couple of weeks, but it's simple enough because it's just a clear rubbermaid bin.
My larger snapper is in a custom made 50 gallon "breeder" aquarium and luckily I don't have to clean that too often...maybe once every two months or so. (I can't wait until I have my outdoor setup ready and some stock tanks for the basement!!!)

Anyway, yeah, make sure you use good filtration and net out any food remains as soon as possible (and fecal matter).

MultipleMorphHerps Aug 14, 2005 11:23 AM

I too feed crappy bait and haven't had this happen before. I have this filter running 24/7 and clean it whenever needed.

http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?R=1123&sku=180300&redirectURL=/Shop/SearchResults.aspx?Ntt=filter&N=5044+30+27&Ntt=filter&N=5044 30 27
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mr_phew Aug 15, 2005 01:03 AM

how big is your snapper? What type of filter are you running and in what size tank with how much water? Maybe my turtles just aren't large enough yet to have the smell problems.

mohawkthunder Aug 16, 2005 07:55 PM

two things I should have mentioned also in my last post are light and water type. Light will create algea and odor and crappy city tap water will smell up faster than well or bottled water wich is more pure and has less particles in it. Never have sunlight on your aquatic setups. You'll be scrapping green muck forever! lol

Tektum Aug 14, 2005 08:13 PM

A simple solution, don't feed it fish. Fish are not a necessary part of a snapping turtles diet. Fish when delivered from frozen stock, lack the vitamins of fresh, live fish and with fresh live fish, you run the risk of passing worms on to the turtle. All fish seem to stink up the water if any degree of tearing is going on.
I feed my snappers chicken gizzards (cut in pieces that won't have to be torn and foul the water), Beetles, Preying Mantis', frogs, aquatic snails (with the shells), shell fish ~ soft shelled clams and Mussels (with the shells), whole mice (suitable in size to swallow whole), occasionally smaller turtles, small snakes, you get the idea! Pretty much anything made of meat can be substitued for fish as long as you consider at least one type of whole vertebrate animal occasionally for other specific nutrients.
Take it easy, Leo
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mohawkthunder Aug 16, 2005 07:59 PM

Id be careful with the amount of shellfish or seafood offered to the turtle over a long period of time. It can raise chemical levels to a dangerous point in the turtle. Also if theyre a turtle lover I dont think theyre gonna be offering smaller turtles as food. just my opinion.

Tektum Aug 16, 2005 09:38 PM

Yes, I hear you about the turtle feeding on turtles thing. I am definately a turtle person myself, but occasionally I am offered the opportunity to babies that didn't quite make it out of the shell during incubation, or specimens that died of causes such as failure to thrive etc., these are the turtles i've used as feeders, I guess I should have been a little more descriptive.(Not to mention, using a live wild caught turtle would be a risk anyway as for passing on worms and other internal parasites).
~ As far as shellfish are concerned, I think that there is definately a likely hood of passing contaminates from shellfish onto the turtles being fed, when the shellfish are being removed from contaminated areas (as with fish and amphibians used for food). I am fortunate to live in an area where the ocean water is rather clean and free moving, without the heavy boat traffic and slow moving inlets. I actually kept a common Snapping turtle for 19 years and in the turtles early years, she was fed primarily on soft shelled clams. As a kid, this was the easiest food source for me to aquire.
Many reptiles and amphibians are fortunate in the respect that they retain toxins that they consume, in their own tissues and are avoided the hazards that would normally be presented to say, mammals or birds. Box turtles and bullfrogs would be a couple of examples.
These retained toxins in turn make the amphibian or reptile that ingested them, toxic to would be predators. But it would definately be better to avoid the potential for any problems all together!
You brought up a good point ~ thanx, Leo
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steffke Aug 14, 2005 08:53 PM

A mild acid solution like vinegar or lemmon juice to clean oily areas. The citric acid will break down the oil. Obviously you have to wash the items that have the residue with the acid solution, then rinse before putting them back in the tank. Any oil at the surface can be collected using a turkey baster, but I wouldn't ever let it be used in the kitchen again. Label it turtle use only. Sometimes oil can be absorbed from the surface using a sponge.

These ideas come from my household kitchen experience and general science background. I have never had a problem with oil residue in my tank. I do have a good filter that runs all the time and several different types of plant that also help to filter the water. I also keep a small school of live fish in the tank at all times.

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