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Hi,

Does anyone work with those in the us and would ship them to canada ? (I don't know exactly how it's work for shipping animals from us to canada).

Green Bush (Elaphe prasina)
Green Red-Tailed (Gonyosoma oxycephala (was in Elaphe family before) )
Chinese bamboo ratsnake (Elaphe porphyracea nigrofasciatus)
Thai bamboo ratsnake (Elaphe Porphyracea coxi)
Japanese RatSnake (Elaphe climacophora)
Chinese Green Ratsnake (Gonyosoma frenatum)
Spreckled Racers
Rhynchophis boulengeri (there is green and gray rhinos I think).

The information about these species are a little more rare too so it's harder to find information related to them, so any more information would be appreciate too.

I have kept some kingsnake and some ball python and taked care of some other snake for some friends. But I never bred them cause 2 things
1) There was too many people working with those and enough of them avaible for the demand so it was useless IMO
2) Because of 1 I was selling one of the couple or both to acquire something else.

I think I have enough experience (after 6-7 years) to take good care of these rarer asian rat snake. May be eventually breed them cause they are really rare here. I am still searching for someone in canada that work with them but didn't found any, so I am thinking of getting them from the state instead if possible.

Thank you for your help !

I live in Canada and have an adult pair of Japanese ratsnakes, I may breed them in the next year or two, depending on how busy the rest of my life gets.

Alex

Do you have a picture of your specimens ?

Would you mind to tell me where you purchased them ?
May be they have the other specimen I am searching for or some others to sell ?

If you purchased them in the state, how have you done it ?

Thank you for your help.

I don't currently have photos on the web of them. I bought them from Adam Block in the US before he stopped breeding colubrids. It's a ridiculous amount of money to ship non-cites species into Canada, I lived near the border at the time, so I had them shipped to an american friend's house, drove down, picked them up, and took them through the border. As long as the species have no restrictions on them (CITES, prohibited, etc)you can quite legally import I think just under $500 worth of herps this way.

So the Japanese Ratsnake aren't cites ? I tought they were.
I will have to check back and do an update of all these cites . Lost some memory hehe.

Thank you for the help

This is the wrong forum for speckled racers, but...FWIW, Specked Racers AKA Jewelled Racers (Drymobius margaratiferous), come from Mexico, Central America and extreme southern TX (where they are endangered). Almost all are wild-caught and all are lizard and gold-fish eaters. I got lucky with one (of two) WC yearlings when it began taking pinky mice. Full grown, they are about 28" long & 130 gms wt, but are extremely active so a 40-gallon or larger cage is almost mandatory. All need to be de-wormed and vet-checked in spite of what an importer might tell you. Worse, they are sight-hunters so cannot find F & T prey when its dropped in a cage- they literally have to ram their noses into dead prey to locate it! Thus most will need live prey. They also 'lose' an occasional live fuzzy that freezes in terror. Once a mouse is located, the little snake will be on it literally faster than the eye can see, and with the mouse in its mouth, will charge wildly full-speed into rocks, hides or cage walls or the top, in an apparent attempt to stun the mouse. Once stunned, down it goes still wiggling- quite a show. Not very long-lived; mine lasted 7 yrs exclusively on pink and fuzzy mice, which some say is too rich a diet for lizard/fish eaters. For more info, try the Racer Forum