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CDieter Aug 16, 2005 01:29 PM

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'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

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CDieter Aug 16, 2005 01:29 PM

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'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

ice0003 Aug 16, 2005 01:36 PM

Excellent work Chris, it looks really great, and I bet she loves it too, congrats!

I was wondering what kind of filtration do you use, and how is it set up?

CDieter Aug 16, 2005 02:20 PM

I use a wet/dry filter trickle filter, the pond area has a drain built into the bottom so I usually just do total water changes.

The pond is 10 x 10 x 2.2, the cage is 24 x 24.
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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

ice0003 Aug 16, 2005 03:43 PM

Sounds like a great setup. I am working on a 6'X6' "terrarium of sorts, and looking into the Tetra canister pond filters, but i am just not sure quite yet on the specifics, so I am asking lots of questions on that sort of thing. This will house my AA for the next 2-7 years of his life, depending on his growth.

Here is a sketch of what I am thinking, just for clarification.

And thanks again for your book, I know you hear that plenty of times, but it is one I carry with me every day, and read again and again. It really does help people get a grasp on all the aspects of a crocodlians life that are necessary for optimum health.

Take care.
Jeff

carlos1 Aug 16, 2005 07:27 PM

You'll need it at least 4' feet tall. at 2 feet even the smallest gator could get out. I'd do 4' tall from the highest point inside the cage. Also, you'll probably need 2 canister filters depending on how many gallons. I use a fluval 404 on just 50 gallons and thats as large as it can handle. When i go more than 50 gallons I'll use 2 fluval 404s bc just my one right needs to be cleaned every 2 weeks or so. Esp during the summer when my caiman is eating alot.

That cage will rpolly be good to up to about 4' gator. Prolly 3 years or less.

Good luck

>>Sounds like a great setup. I am working on a 6'X6' "terrarium of sorts, and looking into the Tetra canister pond filters, but i am just not sure quite yet on the specifics, so I am asking lots of questions on that sort of thing. This will house my AA for the next 2-7 years of his life, depending on his growth.
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>>Here is a sketch of what I am thinking, just for clarification.
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>>And thanks again for your book, I know you hear that plenty of times, but it is one I carry with me every day, and read again and again. It really does help people get a grasp on all the aspects of a crocodlians life that are necessary for optimum health.
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>>Take care.
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CDieter Aug 17, 2005 09:47 AM

Hi Jeff,

Looks like a great setup. Myself for young animals I prefer large stock tanks. The number one reason being the animals simply outgrow the enclosures so fast and I can use them again when I start another batch of hatchlings.

You enclosure looks great, awesome actually and I think you have thought it out well. Just remember to plan ahead. You'll be building a BIG enclosure before you know it.

I would second carlo's view to make it relatively high, of course if it has a lid you don't have that worry.

I'm glad you liked the book, I am about to update it with some more stuff.
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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

ice0003 Aug 17, 2005 11:01 AM

Thanks for the response's guys, wasn't expecting feedback, I was just bs-ing, if you know what I mean, it is much appreciated.

I must apologize for the sketch, it is a bit misleading, only the middle part, minus the legs and minus the braces that will hold the plexi windows is 6'X6'X2', then add on the 2 extra feet of 4X4 that will be "slotted" to hold plexi windows, meaning the walls inside will be 3-4 feet tall, and a "rim" along the top will keep the gator from being able to climb out. I will keep a close eye on this part of the design, I def don't want him to be able to escape. Add onto that 2' legs and basically the final shape of the enclosure will be 6' X 6' X 6'.

As far as the filters I am just not sure if I want ot have to cans running on this setup, as I currently already have one filtering his current home, I'd rather just go with a bigger pool sand filter, or like I said one of the large Tetra Pond Canister filters, but I haven't decided, though I never been much of a Fluval fan, more of a Rena guy, lol. Worst case is I will have 2 Rena XP3's running this setup.

Thanks again for the feedback, I will more than likely post my progress on here once I get started on construction.

Chris, can't wait for the updates, will i be able to find them online or just order a suppliment from somewhere?

miketalka Aug 17, 2005 11:19 PM

Chris,Where did you get your pool and how do you heat it.I live near San Antonio and I Hvae cubans and niles and I need a large pool or pond for them.I would like to keep them out all winter long.I have a winter house for them.

Mike Talka

CDieter Aug 18, 2005 11:29 AM

The pool is a 10 X 10 stock tank I ordered from a feed store(gotta love the feed store). I don't know if I'll use it again as directly next to this enclosure I have several more being constructed with natural earth ponds.

Our land here holds water so well it's more cost effective and IMHO better looking. Although my wife disagrees so I may eventually relent.

As to heating I use a method illustrated on the forum a few times. I recirculate the water over hot water heater elements. It is cost effective and works very well.
The Ultimate Guide to Crocs

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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

Ralf Sommerlad Aug 19, 2005 02:25 AM

I love the enclosure. Wished to be able keeping my crocs outdoors. What about you, Chris:Do you have enough space for a large Osteolaemus, a small Chinese Alligator and the old guy whos keeping them, LOL?
CSG´s Tomistoma Task Force

CDieter Aug 19, 2005 01:16 PM

Yeah, they don't take up much space. I think we can fit the old guy in somewhere also

>>I love the enclosure. Wished to be able keeping my crocs outdoors. What about you, Chris:Do you have enough space for a large Osteolaemus, a small Chinese Alligator and the old guy whos keeping them, LOL?
>>CSG´s Tomistoma Task Force
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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

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